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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Hydes on Sunday 03 September 17 14:05 BST (UK)
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Can anyone provide any more information??
John O'Hare + Mary Hampsley
Children:
Andrew O'Hare (Coal miner)
(b: 1893 d: 1940?)
??? (More children)
Andrew O'Hare + Rose Ann Docherty
Children:
Rose Ann Docherty O'Hare
(b: 1924- d:1965)
Margret O'Hare
John O'Hare
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Quote - Andrew O'Hare + Rose Ann Docherty
Children:
Rose Ann Docherty O'Hare
(b: 1924- d:1965)
Margret O'Hare
John O'Hare
The children of this couple would hopefully be living people and unfortunately we cannot name any on here.
Sandra
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This would appear to be the O'Hare family in 1901 - Nimmos Rows New Monkland Lanarkshire (same as Docherty on your other thread)
John Ohare 48 Coal Miner.
Mary Ohare 45
James Ohare 22 Coal Miner
Thomas Ohare 19 Coal Miner
John Ohare 17 Coal Miner
Joseph Ohare 13
Andrew Ohare 8
Charles Ohare 6
Sandra
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1881 No 44 Longriggend New Monkland Lanarkshire
John O Hear 28 Coal Miner.
Mary O Hear 25
Margaret O Hear 4
James O Hear 2
James Winton 16 Lodger.
Sandra
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HAMPSLEY MARY - O'HEAR JOHN - 1876 - 651/1 98 - 98 - Airdrie or New Monkland.
Sandra
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O'HARE ANDREW - DOCHERTY ROSE ANN - 1920 - 651/ 21 - 21 Airdrie or New Monkland.
O'HARE ROSE ANN - DOCHER F - 1924 - 651/ 399 - Airdrie or New Monkland
Probably need to buy a few credits for Scotlands People to see who was the informant on those deaths below.
O'HARE ANDREW - 47 years - 1940 - 651/ 17 - Airdrie or New Monkland
O'HARE ROSE ANN D - 41 - 1965 - 644/4 1060 - Glasgow
Sandra
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Thank you again. Knew couldn't find anything on recent family just put them in as a start point.
Any idea on??
where a William O'Hare may have come from as I came across one living at Nimmos Row Longriggend passed away 13 sep 1895, aged 27 Longriggend pit so guessing he is a relative??
Also found 2 children from Longriggend burried together (Rachel Docherty and Agnes O'hare) at St Joseph R.C cemetery Airdrie 13 Jan - 22 April 1928 any ideas guessing as both had family names they too are relatives???
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Can anyone help?
Looking for the parents of John O'Hare.
John O'Hare (b: 1853 - ) I believe married Mary Hampsley and lived at at Nimmo's row, New Monkland, Lanarkshire with the following children according to the 1901 census:
James O'Hare (22)
Thomas O'hare (19)
John O'Hare (17)
Joseph O'Hare (13)
Andrew O'Hare (8
Charles O'Hare (6)
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On the 1901 census you will see that it says John was born at Slamannan Stirlingshire. On the 1861 census you will find him , born Slamannan aged 10 years living with Mother Sarah and Father James. However the surname is misspelt as Ohair.
regards.
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Fantastic, thank you! Are you able to tell me if he had any siblings?
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Hi ,
Scotlandspeople has a marriage John O'Hear / Mary Hampsley 1876 , Airdrie or New Monkland Lanark.
That certificate should give you the parents names.
ev
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From the 1851 Census transcription on FreeCEN it looks like Sarah's maiden surname was Dermott , possibly McDermott -
1851 Census Slamannan Stirlingshire
James O'Here 22 railway labourer born Ireland
Sarah O'Here 24 wife b. Ireland
James O'Here 2 son b. Monkland Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Dermott 21 unmarried sislaw b. Ireland
ev
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Thanks EV for your help :)
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Looking for information on the following O'Hare family who lived at Nimmo Row during 1901:
Children of john O'Hare and Mary Hamsley
James b: 1879
John b:1884
Thomas b: 1888
Andrew b:1893
Charles b:1895
Believe there was also a sister
Margaret b:1879
Threads merged , moved to Lanarkshire.
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By 'information' what do you mean, and what have you managed to find out for yourself?
Are those actual years of birth, or just taken from the census? Have you used Scotlandspeople to research them?
Have you looked to see if anyone else is researching this family by looking in 'Surname Interests' in 'Your Tools', below?
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The only Andrew O'Hare (1892/1894) that scotlandspeople show is Andrew Sheridan O'Hare born 1892 in Milton.
If this is 'your' Andrew, then you have his birth year wrong, and he has a middle name that will help in identification.
Worth paying the money to check out the birth?
Have you found the family in 1891 and 1881?
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Always feels strange when a thread is 'merged' mid-post.
If one of the children is your direct ancestor, presumably you have information on them?
Edit: You moved it again?
Hydes,
It is easier to refer to what has already been found so that people do not duplicate research.
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Im only starting out looking into my ancestors and have limited information so perhaps have started off wrong. I'm going off info provided to me previously by others
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Never believe anything provided by others, always check it out yourself.
That does also mean spending money on certificates.
Have you used scotlandspeople? Register for free searches. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
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Thankyou
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My great-great-grandmother was Maggie O'Hare, born around 1852 in Coatdykes, Lanarkshire, daughter of Michael O'Hare and Anne Kylie.
I found a likely marriage for Michael and Anne in Airdrie or New Monkland, Lanarkshire in April 1845 so if they are the correct parents of Maggie I am guessing there's a good chance there were more children before Maggie came along.
Maggie married James Willison in 1869 in Dunbar, East Lothian and they lived in Edinburgh, then Glasgow, then a couple of years in Limerick, Ireland and then back to Glasgow, having children born in all these locations. They eventually settled in the Parkhead area of Glasgow, she outliving James and dying aged 68 in 1920.
I'd love to know if any O'Hare researchers had Maggie somewhere in their tree. Maggie and James' origins have always been problematic to me although it's been James that I have been concentrating on mostly so far, so it would be great to get more info on Maggie.
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Hi Willison
Have you checked all the censuses for Maggie? Couldn't really find anything in the early censuses for Michael and wife Ann. It may be that they were also moving between Ireland and Scotland perhaps.
Have you got both Maggie's marriage to James and her death? Did parent details match for her? What was her father Michael's occupation on these certs? Did her parents show as alive still or deceased on the certs?
Sorry, always lots more questions ::)
Monica :)
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So, is this the first sighting of Maggie o'Hare that you have, from 1871:
James Willison 31 Engine Fitter b. Dundee
Maggie Willison 22 b. Cambrose, Lanark
Valentine Willison 5 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBC-8JV
Maggie Willison 3 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQWQ-QZT
Roseann Willison 9 months indexed as Ann https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQW9-4J3
Address: 5 Melville, Glasgow
James married previously wasn't he. Valentine and Maggie from his first marriage.
Maggie shows Cambrose as her birth place in 1871. Likely a mistranscription of Cambrae (in Bute?), which she gives as her birth place in 1901 where she also showed as aged 50. Where did you see the reference to Coatdykes for her birth place? Another census entry?
Monica
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Maggie Willison 22 b. Cambrose, Lanark
Maggie shows Cambrose as her birth place in 1871. Likely a mistranscription of Cambrae (in Bute?)
Or perhaps Carnbroe in Lanarkshire? Have you looked at the original?
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Wondering if my O'Hare family are related to yours in someway?
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Or perhaps Carnbroe in Lanarkshire? Have you looked at the original?
Which would also fit much better with the Coatdyke reference made earlier!
Monica
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Thank you for all the replies. :)
I will be back with some answers to the questions you posed as soon as I can, but in the meantime - yes, Maggie is listed as being born in Carnbroe in one census and Coatdyke in another.
And yes Hydes, I was hoping we may each have something to offer the other with our O'Hares.
Best of luck with your research (hope you don't mind me coming onto your thread).
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O'HARE ANDREW - DOCHERTY ROSE ANN - 1920 - 651/ 21 - 21 Airdrie or New Monkland.
O'HARE ROSE ANN - DOCHER F - 1924 - 651/ 399 - Airdrie or New Monkland
Probably need to buy a few credits for Scotlands People to see who was the informant on those deaths below.
O'HARE ANDREW - 47 years - 1940 - 651/ 17 - Airdrie or New Monkland
O'HARE ROSE ANN D - 41 - 1965 - 644/4 1060 - Glasgow
Tried to locate the death cert of Andrew ohare on Scotland's people but have not managed to locate it
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Hi, Hydes.
You have copied over what Sandra posted 8 years ago. Have you followed the suggestion offered?
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Hi,
Oooops... didn't mean to do that.
Yes I have followed up alot of what Sandra sent with certificates. However I'm struggling to find the death cert of Andrew on Scotland's people I have type in all sorts of combinations and have come up with nothing??? I'm sure it's there
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Have you looked at this death?
ANDREW O'HARE
age 47
M
1940
651 / 17
Airdrie or New Monkland
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Thankyou after searching forever to find Andrew O'hare (Great Grandfather) death certificate on Scotland's people i have just located it. I didn't realise I needed the ' in O'hare as the other family members I have found i didn't put it into the search.
I'm excited to say I have also located a photo of the grave (he was buried along side his wife)
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I was researching my great great uncle
Thomas O'Hear
(B) : 29.8.188
(M) : 17.7.1910
(D) : 29.4.1955
Birth and marriage certificate lists father as John O'hare and mother Mary Hampsley however his death says father was Thomas O'Hear mother Mary Hampsley. Is this just an error or am I missing something??
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Probably an error - who registered the death?
It isn't unusual for the informant to be misinformed of details of a death, but mostly the person who registers a birth or who gets married will get it right, so I'd go with John and just make a note that there's an error in the death certificate.
And don't ascribe any significance to spelling variations, especially with Irish surnames, as these are often misheard by registrars.
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The witness on the death certificate was John O'hare (Son) which seems odd. Surely he knew what his father's name was ??
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You would have thought so, but maybe he was confused by the registrar's questions. Or maybe the registrar misunderstood and it was he who got it wrong.
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Forfarian,
Thanks for the reply. Will go with it just being a error
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Where did Margaret go ??
Margaret O'hare/O'hear
(All confirmed with certificates)
Parents:
John O'hare + Mary Hampsley
(B): 15th February 1877 (Airdrie)
(M): 13th December 1904 (John Steel)
(D): ?????
Children:
John Steel: 1906, Whitburn
Thomas Steel: 1907, Roughrigg
............ Steel: 1909, Roughrigg
Catherine Steel: 1911, Longriggend
Can't seem to find her after Catherine's birth??
Ideas anyone ???
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Margaret has been found ;D