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Title: George Alder
Post by: squeeze on Thursday 24 August 17 22:31 BST (UK)
Hi,
Is it possible for some one to look up the birth of George Alder born in Kingsclere in 1851 according to all the census I have seen. I have him married to Annie Jackson but can only find one entry for birth.
That being with his mother as Anna Alder and it looks as though she was unmarried. I am trying to eliminate any others that it may be around at that time.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks
Sue
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 24 August 17 22:40 BST (UK)
The registration district for Kingsclere was Kingsclere and freebmd only shows one George Alder birth there which was 1840

www.freebmd.org.uk

Does he name a father on his marriage cert - although that can't always be relied on with illegitimate children
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: squeeze on Thursday 24 August 17 22:55 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,
I don't have a birth certificate at all. I was going by the census that lists him on the 1901 and 1911 census as being born abt 1851 in Kingsclere. Have his death in Hungerford in 1934. Cannot trace a census from 1861 or 1871 that shows him.
Thanks for the swift reply.
Sue
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 25 August 17 05:00 BST (UK)
Hi Sue, this one has kept me enthralled for a couple of hours, that marriage certificate would really help out!

The George Alder with an Anna was the baptism in Ampfield on 22nd August 1852, there is a death in Ampfield 6th April 1855 of a George Alder aged 2

Re census returns for him 1891 b c 1853 RG12/882/18/30 and 1881 b c 1851 RG11/1171/95/14

His occupation always appears to be a Carter, and he always gives pob as Kingsclere or on one return Kingclear.
Keyboard86
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: solidrock on Friday 25 August 17 07:32 BST (UK)
In the 1891 his birth place is Berkshire.
There is a Kingsclere near Newbury Berkshire.
One birth in that area

George Alder. b 1857. Newbury Berkshire.

In the 1911 he's back in Berkshire.  death Berkshire 1934.
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: squeeze on Friday 25 August 17 08:58 BST (UK)
Hi All,

 Thanks for your replies.Looks like it is the one. May now need to purchase the birth certificate.

Thanks
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 25 August 17 09:25 BST (UK)
Do you have the marriage certificate for the fathers name and witnesses.
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 25 August 17 09:41 BST (UK)
Hi All,

 Thanks for your replies.Looks like it is the one. May now need to purchase the birth certificate.

Thanks

Births Sep 1857 
Alder    George        Newbury    2c   222    
Deaths Dec 1857 
Alder    George        Newbury    2c   146  age 3  probably months - GRO index does show infants ages without specyfying whether it is weeks/months or years
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: solidrock on Friday 25 August 17 10:54 BST (UK)
Deaths Dec 1857
Alder    George        Newbury    2c   146  age 3  probably months - GRO index does show infants ages without specyfying whether it is weeks/months or years

Looks like another one out of the window then.  Here's a long shot, perhaps he dropped the Stephen.

Stephen George Alder. b 1851 Hungerford. Berkshire.
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 25 August 17 11:04 BST (UK)
Stephen G Alder is born Ramsbury  he is still on census in 1911 as Stephen G
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LC-N82

Maybe the birth was never registered, that is why we really need marriage details
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: squeeze on Friday 08 September 17 09:26 BST (UK)
Hi,
Whilst waiting  for the birth certificate. Is anyone able to look up the marriage and see who the witnesses were. This may help pin point George a bit more. i don't think he was Stephen George as Stephen appears on other census as well as George.
All help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 08 September 17 11:25 BST (UK)
Sorry, which marriage  :-\
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 08 September 17 18:58 BST (UK)
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Whilst waiting  for the birth certificate

What birth cert?  All birth info has already been ruled out.  As in previous replies - you need to buy his marriage cert

Marriages December qtr 1877   
ALDER    George        Alton    2c   343    
JACKSON    Annie        Alton    2c   343
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: squeeze on Friday 08 September 17 19:43 BST (UK)
Hi,
Sorry. am waiting for the birth certificate to arrive.
The wedding would be between George Alder and Anne Jackson. Was wanting to know if any witnesses are recorded.
Thanks
Title: Re: George Alder
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 08 September 17 20:15 BST (UK)
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Sorry. am waiting for the birth certificate to arrive.

Have you read my reply above

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What birth cert?  All birth info has already been ruled out.
 

1852 birth died 1855

1857 birth - died 1857

Quote from Rosie's reply

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Maybe the birth was never registered, that is why we really need marriage details


To lookup a marriage in parish records you have to know which church it took place in

Here are all the areas covered by the Alton RD

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/alton.html