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Title: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 16 August 17 09:36 BST (UK)

Recently while helping a friend do his family tree i came across the marriage of his great grandfather in Dublin.
Denis McGrath son of Edward both Bakers 30 Little Denmark St To Julia Condron dtr of Thomas ,1st Dec 1899 St Audeon,s.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10399/5786497.pdf
1901 census shows him age 23
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Poole_Street/1299814/
unfortunately Denis died 1910 age 32 knocked down by car at Merchant's Quay.
His wifes family were living next door who i have traced back to Wexford 1873
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Poole_Street/1299815/

I found a suspicious birth for a Denis McGrath 1876 to Denis McGrath a Baker and Sarah Hayden of Nicholas Street.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03046/2116642.pdf

I have not found a marriage for this couple or further children.

A Denis McGrath died 1901 just before census date in the Workhouse with a home address of Bridge St,he was a bachelor age 58 and a Baker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05738/4619843.pdf

so i am wondering if he was illegitimate and was not sure of his fathers name as i can find no records of an Edward McGrath a Baker or the above couple.

opinions welcomed

Dathai

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: hasta on Monday 21 August 17 16:15 BST (UK)

Dathai I have found them in Workhouse records for 1888.
Denis McGrath aged 11, child of a Baker who is also in the workhouse.  He is discharged October 1888 " to Uncle"
Father is Edward McGrath aged 40, a widower, Baker of 46 Nicholas street. He died there 21 Sept 1888.
There is a note to say he has three children in the workhouse - I'll look back see if I can find them later. (at work at the mo)

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: hasta on Monday 21 August 17 16:23 BST (UK)

Catherine McGrath aged 9. 35 Nicholas St. " father a baker is in the workhouse" Sent to nurse in Nov 1890.
James McGrath aged 7. 35 Nicholas St. a note that he is "dumb'. Sent to Cork St Hospital, April 1892.

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: dathai on Monday 21 August 17 21:58 BST (UK)

Thank you very very much Hasta brilliant find, i dont know how i could'nt find them earlier on maybe it seems easier when you have the wife's name Jane Murray marriage prior to 1878 ? from Denis's baptism
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.catherine_baptisms_mf_1811-1880_ba_0903

He's actually oh Family Search as Rose McGrath
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG2H-B7Z

James 1882 New Row West
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02783/2021857.pdf

Unknown 1878 Denis
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02978/2091187.pdf

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: dathai on Monday 21 August 17 23:40 BST (UK)

Jane McGrath age 35 buried Glasnevin 1887 with address of New Row

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 22 August 17 08:28 BST (UK)

So i wonder is Denis McGrath the ''Uncle '' who he was sent to,on his son's baptism he lives at 35 Nicholas St and has Edward McGrath as sponsor
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kke/

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: hasta on Tuesday 22 August 17 11:36 BST (UK)

This might be Catherine in SDU Workhouse records 6th August 1891
"On the report of the master, the committee recommended that Catherine McGrath be given to her Uncle James MURRAY"  and a pencil note saying 'Adopted'

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 22 August 17 19:29 BST (UK)

Thank's again Hasta its amazing whats in those workhouse records very informative and helpful.
I had given my friend an outline family tree that stopped at Denis McGrath but at least now he has Denis's proper parents and a bit of info on his sibling's thank's to yourself.

very much appreciated.

Dathai

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 15 November 17 18:26 GMT (UK)

Thanks to the records update i have found their marriage in Tynock.Kiltegan 4th May 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11237/8120452.pdf

according to Rathvilly NLI reel the marriage was in 1873
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634564#page/124/mode/1up

unfortunately no parents given

Title: Re: Edward McGrath a Baker.
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 15 November 17 18:44 GMT (UK)

Quote from: dathai on Wednesday 15 November 17 18:26 GMT (UK)

Thanks to the records update i have found their marriage in Tynock.Kiltegan 4th May 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11237/8120452.pdf

according to Rathvilly NLI reel the marriage was in 1873
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634564#page/124/mode/1up

unfortunately no parents given

Fathers are on Cert
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