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G'day all, I am searching for records in connection with the marriage of John Robinson BOOTH of Stockport Cheshire to Mary Ann Brook of Halifax.
They were listed in the immigration records as married in 1840 when they came to Australia but I am unsure exactly when or where they were married. According to the immigration records, they had James, age 4 with them on the ship and his native place is said to be Halifax, so they may well have married there. I cant find record of James' birth although I do recall stumbling on a post which I now can't find in which the poster said she/he had found a child of this marriage with a biblical name (maybe changed to James later?)
All assistance gratefully received
Cheers, Ian B
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can we find out - if James Booth was 4 on the ship - what year did they emigrate ?...this will give us James year of birth and we can start by looking for that and where he was born :)
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James Booth - father John / mother Ann - christened 27th September 1846 in Mottram in Longdendale ,Cheshire - ??
did they emigrate 1850/51 ?
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John Robinson Booth christened 28th oct 1810 - St Marys ,Stockport
father John Robinson Booth / mother Susanna .
John married Susanna Pearson 25th May 1807 .
they had Susanna Booth baptised 24th dec 1820 also
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They were listed in the immigration records as married in 1840 when they came to Australia but I am unsure exactly when or where they were married.
New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Arrival Date 12 November 1840 on the Argyleshire
John Booth 29 protestant brickmaker Stockport
Mary 3?2 dairy woman Halifax
James 4 Halifax
Susannah 1 month?
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James was 4 on 11th 1840 so his bd is 11th March 1836. I have found the records suggested previously but they don't fit. They travelled to Australia in 1840. Mary gave birth to a girl on board in November 1840.
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A sister for John?
Manchester, England, Non-Conformist Births and Baptisms, 1758-1912
Sarah Robinson Booth
Born 17 Nov 1812 Lancashire, England
Baptised 10 Feb 1813
At Hazel Grove, Cheshire, England
Wesleyan Church (Bullock Smithy Chapel)
Father John Booth
Mother Susannah Booth
When you say the records don't match Ian which ones do you mean?
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James was 4 on 11th 1840 so his bd is 11th March 1836.
The age of 4 on the ship's manifest means he could have been anywhere from 4 years 1 day to 4 years and 364 days old. I am sure they didn't ask for his age in years, months and days, just asked "How old is James?" and the answer was 4 years.
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in fact they did. I have a doc which includes (exactly) "James 4y 11 Mar 1840". The Bounty scheme that they came to Oz on calculated the bounty (ie how much had to be paid for the voyage) based on the age of the person. So it was important
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by the way, their religion is listed as "prot" ie protestant. I don't think that was classified as non conformist or that they were Wesleyans. I would send you the doc but I understand from this sites rules that that isn't kosher
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New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Arrival Date 12 November 1840 on the Argyleshire
John Booth 29 protestant brickmaker Stockport
Mary 3?2 dairy woman Halifax
James 4 Halifax
Susannah 1 month?
Having looked again Susannah's age is 1 week old so born towards the end of the voyage.
Wesleyans and nonconformists were breakaway groups from the established protestant church (according to Wikipedia) :)
Is it an Australian document that states James' birth date as 11 March 1836? Does the column heading have Age or Birthdate as the heading?
I still am inclined to read this " "James 4y 11 Mar 1840" as meaning he was anywhere between 4 years 1 day and 4 years 364 days old on the 11 March when his age was recorded.
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Australia, Births and Baptisms,
Susanna Robison Booth
Baptism Age 0
Birth Date - 4 November 1840
Baptised 13 June 1841
At Petersham, New South Wales
Residence Date: 1840
Residence Place New South Wales in 1840
Father - John Robison Booth
Mother - Mary
FHL Film 993953
Birth registration NSW BMD's 2091/1840 V18402091 25 father John R mother Mary.
Which document gives Mary's maiden name as Brook?
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The dates on the entitlement certificates are usually the date that the person will be the age that they have stated, so James will be aged 4 on 11 March 1840.
You can see all the information that was recorded here:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTZD-YQ
Debra :)