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Title: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Saturday 12 August 17 17:12 BST (UK)
Hello all..

I am helping my friend with her tree and we have the following information ...

From the adoption certificate in 1946


Entry number 44282
Date of entry  25/10/1946
Name of adopted child J M Although deceased, amended by moderator due to nature of topic
Sex female
Date of birth 3rd July 1942
Name and surname of adopted family
Sydney Herbert knight fruit salesman
And Florence's Mary his wife both of 18 Pelham road Worthing Sussex (married 1939 she is nee gosden)

Adoption order granted on the 27th September 1946 at Worthing juvenile court...

Looking at what I know there are original Birth certificates and and amended birth certificates and as I understand the original was sealed after adoption never to be seen ....

Is there any way I can find anything out any other information??

We have the adoption certificate with the information listed above ...

I am not home at the moment and need to check the 1939 list I have credits for this all so please don't use credits up xxx thanks

Angie

Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 12 August 17 19:02 BST (UK)
This might help;

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: Geoff-E on Saturday 12 August 17 19:44 BST (UK)
18 Pelham road Worthing Sussex

A middle aged couple called KEMP in 1939, plus an 8yo boy.
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 12 August 17 20:04 BST (UK)
Regarding the 1939 search, I have a subscription so no extra cost for me to look.
If you are searching for Sydney & Florence, can I suggest you search for Sydney Knight-Fruit salesman- Sussex as his middle initial is mistranscribed and you could waste a credit.
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Saturday 12 August 17 20:35 BST (UK)
This might help;

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records

Thank you so much for your help xx
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Saturday 12 August 17 20:36 BST (UK)
18 Pelham road Worthing Sussex

A middle aged couple called KEMP in 1939, plus an 8yo boy.

Thank you so much for this
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Saturday 12 August 17 20:37 BST (UK)
Regarding the 1939 search, I have a subscription so no extra cost for me to look.
If you are searching for Sydney & Florence, can I suggest you search for Sydney Knight-Fruit salesman- Sussex as his middle initial is mistranscribed and you could waste a credit.

Thank you that's great information
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: iolaus on Sunday 13 August 17 11:55 BST (UK)
If you knew the birth name you can get a copy of the original birth certificate, however while it will have adopted written on it, it doesn't have the name of the adoptive parents
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: Gibel on Sunday 13 August 17 13:23 BST (UK)
Is this your friend's own adoption? If yes she can access her own adoption file. If it is not is the person still living? If they are I thought Roots Chat had a no living person policy.
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Sunday 13 August 17 14:51 BST (UK)
If you knew the birth name you can get a copy of the original birth certificate, however while it will have adopted written on it, it doesn't have the name of the adoptive parents

Thats the problem we dont know the original name thanks i will keep trying other sources it is my friends mother who was adopted

thanks

angie
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Sunday 13 August 17 14:52 BST (UK)
Is this your friend's own adoption? If yes she can access her own adoption file. If it is not is the person still living? If they are I thought Roots Chat had a no living person policy.

No she isnt living it is my friends Mother who was adopted and it was never talked about we have only come across the papers after her death and no other clues

thanks

angie
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: AntonyMMM on Monday 14 August 17 08:21 BST (UK)
Your friend can also access her mother's adoption file, the law was changed to allow that a few years ago.

Speak to the adoption services team of her local council in the first instance for advice on the process.
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Tuesday 15 August 17 02:06 BST (UK)
Your friend can also access her mother's adoption file, the law was changed to allow that a few years ago.

Speak to the adoption services team of her local council in the first instance for advice on the process.

thank you so much for that she wasnt aware of that ... amazing news x
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 15 August 17 09:20 BST (UK)
It might be worth contacting the adoptions department at the GRO and ask them how to access her file if you don't have any/much luck locally.

There has been a recent change in the law for relatives of deceased adoptees

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relatives-of-adopted-adults-now-able-to-trace-family-tree

Dawn
Title: Re: 1942 birth and 1946 adoption
Post by: angi0 on Tuesday 15 August 17 18:58 BST (UK)
It might be worth contacting the adoptions department at the GRO and ask them how to access her file if you don't have any/much luck locally.

There has been a recent change in the law for relatives of deceased adoptees

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relatives-of-adopted-adults-now-able-to-trace-family-tree

Dawn

Thank you so much dawnsh this information will help loads i am passing it on to her today so either her or her daughter can access the file...