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IN A BIT OF A PICKLE !
Have been tracing the Jarvis family for many years, but have got in abit of a mess which may mean a whole branch of my tree is wrong. Robert Jarvis is my first problem. He is listed as been born in Trowse Norflok on some census' but on others as Southwold Suffolk. Also his dob seems to vary from 1779 to 1805 ? He was married to Suzanna balls in 1831 in Suffolk. Roberts parents I think are William (1775 -1841) and Hannah hunt, who is sometimes reorded as Anne. This appears right as she is on 1851 census living with her daughter Mary Anne. As for Williams parents,I always had them as William (1730-1812) and Ann Dickerson(1733-1819) He had another wife Mary.This is where I get in a pickle..there are far to many Williams. Mary had Wm 1768-1768. Ann and Wm had William 1775-1775. William 1777-1845. Above Wm 1805-1841. So in all 4 Williams, 2 of whom survive. I know that they often called another child after a dead one, but this would mean that they had 2 living sons, both called william born 2 years apart. Baptism records show that the parents for all are William and Ann.
So PLEASE anyone with an eye for abit of detection and a free half and hour your help is very much needed 🥒
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Hi there.
Please could you clarify the details you have for Robert? You say his birth was in the range 1799-1805, but that cannot be right if he married in 1798. Also William/Ann nee Dickerson would be too old to be his parents.
How many of the censuses does he appear in, and what does each one say about him?
Have you found any possible baptism(s) for Robert - if so when and where?
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Robert Jarvis is my first problem. He is listed as been born in Trowse Norflok on some census' but on others as Southwald Suffolk.He was married to Hannah Hunt in 1798, who is sometimes reorded as Anne. Def. the right guy.
Perhaps a mistake here? I can see a marriage for William Jarvis to Hannah Hunt at Lowestoft, 28 Oct 1798.
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Children baptised at Lowestoft (mother's maiden name helpfully noted in the baptism register):
02 Dec 1799: Hannah dau of William Jarvis & Hannah (Hunt), born 02 Dec.
21 Apr 1801: William son of William Jarvis & Hannah (Hunt), born 19 Apr.
15 Feb 1803: Elizabeth dau of William Jarvis & Hannah (Hunt), born 14 Feb.
28 Nov 1805: Robert son of William Jarvis & Ann (Hunt), born 28 Nov.
28 Sep 1807: James son of William Jervis & Hannah (Hunt), born 27 Sep.
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Not much help but Southwald is probably Southwold which is in the Lowestoft district.
As avm228 said there may be some confusion in your names and dates. If William Jarvis married Hannah Hunt in 1798 then your Robert is possibly their son b 28 Nov 1805.
Maybe a marriage for Robert,
Robert Jarvis m Caroline Lockwood. 04 Dec 1826. St. Margaret's, Lowestoft.
They had a son,
Robert William Jarvis. baptised 20 Oct 1830. St Margaret. Lowestoft. (although record says mmn Waines)
1841 census shows them living at Banett'S Yard. Lowestoft, Suffolk.
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Thanks for the replies. Reading back I realised that I made some mistakes when writing the post....sorry!
Robert was married to Suzanna balls. His parents I think are William Jarvis (1775-1841)and Hannah hunt (1773-1863) I am sure this is right as Hannah is living with her daughter Mary Ann in 1851 census. It's William I am having trouble with as I have his parents as William (1730-1812)and Ann Dickerson (1733-1819) it's here that all the Williams appear as mentioned in the first post. Hope that clarifies a few things. X
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When and where was Robert married to Suzanna?
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Robert & Susanna married on 11 October 1831 in Redon Suffolk
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Robert & Susanna married on 11 October 1831 in Redon Suffolk
I can't find a marriage for them any where, Rendon maybe Reydon which is very near Southwold.
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Found them on the 1851 but I'm not convinced it's the right Robert because of the names of their children, the marriage to Caroline Lockwood is more likely if Roberts father was William.
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Found the marriage, but it's Susan Balls and Robert Jervis, 11 Oct 1831. Reydon.
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Robert and Suzanna had 10 children. Eliza, susannah, Thomas, Joseph, Isaac, John, Samuel, William, Charles and Ellen
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Hi thanks for that info, it's a maybe now with a son called William. Did Susan or Susanna die in 1857?
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1856 in southwold
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1856 in southwold
Susan Jarvis. b1813. d1857. Age 44. Buried 11 Aug 1857, St. Edmund, Southwold.
Found another sibling of Robert..
John Hunt Jarvis. b 22 Jun 1804. St Margaret. Lowestoft.
Have you got a birth place for William (1775 -1841)?
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Williams birth place is langham Norfolk.
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Is this William
William Jarvis. baptism 29 May 1774. Langham, Norwich. father John. mother Alice.
Marriage
Norfolk Banns. John Jarvis - Alice Bird. 19 Dec 1762. Langham, Norwich.
John Jarvis,(Lexlingham). m Alice Bird,(Saxlingham). 05 Jan 1763. Langham, Norwich.
Possible birth for John.
John Jarvis. baptism 14 Jan 1740. Holt, Norfolk. father John. mother Amy.
Possible birth for Alice.
Alice Bird. baptism 1739. Brancastor, Norfolk. father Robert. mother Elizabeth.
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Here's a couple more maybe's...
John Jarvis married Amey Wix. 07 Oct 1735. East Dereham.
John Jarvis baptised 28 Apr 1712. East Dereham. father Thomas. mother Sarah.
Thomas Jarvis married Sarah 11 Jun 1705. East Dereham.
Thomas Jarvis baptised 20 Dec 1680. East Dereham. father Thomas. mother Elizabeth.
Am I on the right track?
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Hi
Thanks for all the hard work X I think we may be on the right lines with Alice bird and John Jarvis. I will investigate further. Good to know we may have ancestors in common.