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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: LisaReidWest on Saturday 29 July 17 20:43 BST (UK)
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My great, great, great grandfather John Gray Reid born in 1825 in Kinfauns, Perthshire. I am having a hard time finding his parents. John married Anne Morrison b. in 1829 somewhere in the Perthshire area. They left for Ontario, Canada sometime around the 1850 time range. If anyone can help with lineage for either of them.
Thank you,
Lisa Reid West
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John Morrison and Ann Reid seem to have married sometime in 1848. You will find entries (which will be banns rather than the actual marriage) for Ann Morrison in the Parish of Errol under the date of 20 May 1848 and for John Reid in the Parish of Kinfauns under the date of 2 June 1848. You can buy credits on <a href="https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk">ScotlandsPeople</a> and view the entries in the Parish Registers which should give you a bit more information about the couple. It looks, however, as if Ann was from (or at least resident in) the Parish of Errol at the time. I am not familiar with the Old Parochial Registers in that county, so there may not be much more than a statement of John's occupation and residence at the time, but you may be lucky and it may give at least one of his parents. Similarly with Ann. When you then try to locate the two individuals in the 1841 Census you must, when looking for an Ann Morrison, also search under the variant form of the surname - Morison - and Ried / Reed as the semi-literate enumerator might have recorded him.
Extracted entries on IGI show the birth (13 Oct 1825) and christening (23 October 1825) in the Parish of Kinfauns of a John Gray Reid to a John Reid and Janet Macarthur. You will be able to view the original entry in the Old Parochial Registers online also on ScotlandsPeople. Middle names were not common at that time, so you are lucky that your John had a middle name and you can be virtually certain that this entry is your John - but always back that up with additional proof from as many other sources as possible. Ann Morrison, however, is not a sufficiently distinctive name, and any Ann Morrison you find in the baptismal registers is not necessarily going to be your Ann. There was no requirement for people to register the birth (/baptism) of their child before the introduction of civil registration in Scotland (1855) and the baptisms that can be found in the old registers represent just a portion of the births in each parish in any year. There will be plenty of people who did not have their children baptised. That said, however, IGI shows an Ann Morrison born 9 October 1829 and baptised 29 Nov 1829 in the Parish of Errol to a James Morrison and Ann Jack. That -may- be your Ann but it may not be. If it is, that would make her marrying aged 18, coming up for 19, depending on when the actual marriage took place.
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This is from the IGI
Name: John Gray Reid
Christening: 23 Oct 1825, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 13 Oct 1825
Father: John Reid
Mother: Janet Mcarthur
Name: John Reid
Spouse: Ann Morrison
Event: 20 May 1848, Errol, Perth, Scotland
Name: John Reid
Spouse: Ann Morrison
Event: 02 Jun 1848, Kinfauns, Perth, Scotland
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Also from the IGI
Name: John Reid
Spouse: Janet Mcarthur
Event: 03 Nov 1816, Kinnoull, Perth, Scotland
Name Margaret Reid
Birth: 05 Jan 1822, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Janet Mcarthur
Name: John Gray Reid
Christening: 23 Oct 1825, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 13 Oct 1825
Father: John Reid
Mother: Janet Mcarthur
Name James Reid
Christening: 07 Dec 1828, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 23 Nov 1828
Father: John Reid
Mother: Janet Mcarthur
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Name: John Reid
Spouse: Ann Morrison
Event: 02 Jun 1848,Kinfauns, Perth, Scotland
Name: James Reid
Christening: 23 Apr 1849, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 25 Mar 1849
Father: John Reid
Mother: Ann Morrison
Name : William Reid
Christening: 14 Apr 1850, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 30 Mar 1850
Father: John Reid
Mother: Ann Morrison
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In the OPR (deaths) in ScotlandsPeople there are 5 of the Reid name in Kinfauns.
The first one looks like the father John Reid and the last looks like the mother Janet.
Perhaps the rest are their bairns.
REID JOHN JANET MCARTHUR 64 13/08/1849 Kinfauns
REID WILLIAM ----- 16/06/1842 Kinfauns
REID CHRISTIAN JOHN REID / JANET MC ARTHUR 25 14/02/1845 Kinfauns
REID MARGARET CLARK / JAMES CLARK 27 03/09/1849 Kinfauns
REID JANET MCARTHUR / JOHN REID 55 09/06/1850 Kinfauns
I have the pre-1855 Monumental Inscriptions for Kinfauns and there are none of the Reid name in it.
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May come in handy later (showing the name still being around in 1925...
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=135765049
Annie
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These are the Reid names in Kinfauns in the 1841 census
1841 census: Place: Kinfauns –Perth: Address: Kinfauns Tower
REED John 50 Wood Forrester Perth
REED Janet 40 Perth
REED James 12 Perth
MCGREGOR John 18 Wood Forrester Perth
1841 census: Place: Kinfauns -Perth Address: East Gate
RIED John M 35 Coach Man Perth
RIED Cristian F 35 Perth
1841 census: Place: Kinfauns –Perth: Address: -
DALL Christain F 20 Perth
DALL Ann F 2 Perth
DALL John M 14d Perth
REID Magrate F 18 Female Servant Perth
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According to ScotlandsPeople there were four births of the Reid name in Kinfauns from 1855-1900 but no marriages and no deaths.
REID THOMAS WATSON G M 1864 366/ 18 Kinfauns
REID JOHN JAMES M 1869 366/ 10 Kinfauns
REID LOUISE SARAH F 1872 366/ 1 Kinfauns
REID ELIZABETH F 1873 366/ 11 Kinfauns
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From the IGI
Name: Thomas Watson Greig Reid
Birth: 16 Dec 1864, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Jane Duncan
Name: John James Reid
Birth: 11 Aug 1869, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Jane Duncan
Name: Louise Sarah Reid
Birth: 25 Dec 1871, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Jane Duncan
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Name: Elizabeth Reid
Birth: 13 Nov 1873, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: George Reid
Mother: Elizabeth Kidd
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From the IGI
Name: Thomas Watson Greig Reid
Birth: 16 Dec 1864, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Jane Duncan
Name: John James Reid
Birth: 11 Aug 1869, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Jane Duncan
Name: Louise Sarah Reid
Birth: 25 Dec 1871, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: John Reid
Mother: Jane Duncan
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Name : Elizabeth Reid
Birth: 13 Nov 1873, KINFAUNS, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Father: George Reid
Mother: Elizabeth Kidd
The John Reid who married Jane Duncan was born in Morayshire and according to the 1871 census was a coachman.
He is not one of your family.
Name John Reid
Spouse: Jane Duncan
Event: 06 Dec 1855, Elgin, Moray, Scotland
George Reid was married in Perth.
Name: George Reid
Spouse: Elisabeth Kidd
Event: 07 Apr 1871, Perth, Perth, Scotland
I don't think he was one of your family either.
It looks like when your John Reid emigrated, that was the last of your Reid family in Kinfauns
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Possible birth for Ann Morrison
Name Ann Morrison
Christening: 29 Nov 1829, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 09 Oct 1829
Father: James Morrison
Mother: Ann Jack
And possible Morrison family living in Kinfauns
1841 census: Place: Kinfauns–Perth: Address: Northley's
MORISON James 40 Labourer Perth
MORISON Ann F 40 Perth
MORISON Bell F 15 Perth
MORISON Ann F 12 Female Servant Perth
MORISON Joseph 12 Perth
MORISON Mary F 10 Perth
MORISON Hay M 8 Perth
MORISON Margrate F 6 Perth
MORISON Jean F 3 Perth
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Name: James Morison
Spouse: Ann Jack
Event: 16 Jul 1815, Errol, Perth, Scotland
Name Helen Morison
Christening: 10 Dec 1815, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 30 Nov 1815
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
Note: Contributed IGI gives (H)Ellen Morison died 21 April 1881, Linn Co., Missouri
Name Andrew Morison
Christening: 08 Feb 1818, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 01 Feb 1818
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
Name James Morrison
Christening: 16 Apr 1820, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 10 Apr 1820
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
Name David Morrison
Christening: 14 Jul 1822, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 08 Jul 1822
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
Name Elizabeth Morison
Christening: 12 Dec 1824, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 04 Dec 1824
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
Name Peter Morrison
Christening: 28 Jan 1827, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 20 Jan 1827
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
Name Ann Morrison
Christening: 29 Nov 1829, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 09 Oct 1829
Father: James Morrison
Mother: Ann Jack
Note: Contributed IGI gives Annie Morrison born 9th October 1828, Perth and died 29 November 1902
Name Isabella Morrison
Christening: 29 Jan 1832, ERROL, PERTH, SCOTLAND
Birth: 15 Jan 1832
Father: James Morison
Mother: Ann Jack
These are the bairns of James Morrison & Ann Jack according to the IGI.
In the 1841 census for Kinfauns there were also the bairns Joseph (1828), Mary (1830), Hay (1832), Margaret (1834) & Jean (1837).
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And possible Morrison family living in Kinfauns
1841 census: Place: Kinfauns–Perth: Address: Northley's
MORISON James 40 Labourer Perth
MORISON Ann F 40 Perth
MORISON Bell F 15 Perth
MORISON Ann F 12 Female Servant Perth
MORISON Joseph 12 Perth
MORISON Mary F 10 Perth
MORISON Hay M 8 Perth
MORISON Margrate F 6 Perth
MORISON Jean F 3 Perth
I found these in the 1851 census.
Possibly the same family as your Ann Morrison.
1851 census: Place: Aberdalgie-Perth: Address: Mains Bothy
LYON Richard 44 Farm Servant Perth – Caputh
CLARK John 28 Farm Servant Perth - Caputh
SLATER William 24 Farm Servant Perth - Caputh
MORRISON Joseph 21 Farm Servant Perth – Kinfauns
MARTIN George 16 Farm Servant Perth – Methven
1851 census: Place: Aberdalgie-Perth Address: Dupplin Kennels
HOWIESON John Head 43 Gamekeeper Perth – Dunning
HOWIESON Jane Wife 37 Fife – Monimail
HOWIESON Andrew Son 3 Perth – Aberdalgie
HOWIESON Rebecca Dau 1 Perth – Aberdalgie
HOWIESON Andrew Nephew 25 Gamekeeper Perth – Aberdalgie
HOWIESON Archibald Nephew 24 Gamekeeper Perth – Aberdalgie
MAILER James Asstnt 19 Assistant Gamekeeper Perth – Blackford
MORRISON Jane Servant 13 House Servant Perth – Kinfauns
1851 census: Place: Falkland-Fife: Address: High Street
WHITEAKER James Head 32 Vintiner England
WHITEAKER Betsy Wife 27 Fife - Falkland
WHITEAKER Catherine Dau 10 Scholar Fife - Falkland
WHITEAKER Thomas Son 7 Scholar Fife - Falkland
WHITEAKER Archibald Son 1 Fife - Falkland
MORRISON Margaret Servant 16 General Servant Perth – Kinfauns
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