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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Laois (Queens) => Topic started by: CatOne on Sunday 31 July 05 19:08 BST (UK)
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Not long ago I unearthed an Irish ancestor and have no idea how to go about tracing her birth and parents, etc. She came to England and married William Carter in Prestbury, Cheshire in 1836. Her name is Margaret Broph(e)y and she was born c.1816 in Castletown, Queens County.
Thanks for any help.
Catherine :)
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Hi Catherine,
There are 5 names of Margaret Brophy in Griffiths Valuation of Laois.
Boley Upper (Clonenagh) Mountrath
Dairyhill (Aghaboe) Borris-in-ossory
Ballynevin (Aghmacart) Mountrath
Harristown Rathdowney
Coolnamony upper (Rearymore) Clonaslee.
Perhape she in among these.
Around the time she was born, Castletown would have been a very small place, it still is, and records may have been slightly off.
Have a look at Griffiths.
Best wishes
Jack :)
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Thanks for the reply :) I'd given up hope of finding anything further on my Irish ancestors.
Sorry to sound thick but where would I look up Griffiths valuation?? Is it available online?
Thanks again
Catherine :)
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Hi Catherine
Yes, its on line,
Griffiths valuation of ireland 1848-1864
Enjoy,
Jack
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Thanks Jack :)
Have a good day
Regards
Catherine
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Hi, I have replied to you before re Margaret Brophy, just to let you know I am still on your case, I've just discovered that my Brophy's moved around the Castletown area, more that I had realised. I am hoping to came acrss your Margaret when I get another chance to go to Dublin, (I only managed to get back to 1837 before I ran out of time)
Anne
Manchester
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Hi, I have replied to you before re Margaret Brophy, just to let you know I am still on your case, I've just discovered that my Brophy's moved around the Castletown area, more that I had realised. I am hoping to came acrss your Margaret when I get another chance to go to Dublin, (I only managed to get back to 1837 before I ran out of time)
Anne
Manchester
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Thanks Anne, thats great :) I'm at a total brickwall with Margaret at the moment
Regards
Catherine :)
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Hi, I have had a look at the Castletown register and found the following
1810 3/3 Rushall
Marg Brophy for Brophy and Anny Cashin
1808 Mary for J Brophy (place looks like Ballycleary but not sure)
1802 Dec 6 (the place looks like Narinage which isn't anywhre I know)
Mary for John Brophy and Mary Bo (probably Bowe) sponsers Michael Delany and Nancy B~
I intend to retrn to Dublin and have another look at this register with a fresh pair of eyes
I hope this helps
Anne ::)
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Thank you so much for those. I'll dig out my file on that family now and see if I can fit them in! Margaret born to Brophy and Ann Cashin seems to be a good match to be mine I think. Castletown was only a small village back then wasnt it, so it wouldn't be likely there'd be a few Margaret Bropheys around the same time?
(do you know what "sponsors" would have done? pay for the christening? godparents?)
Thanks again
Best Wishes
Catherine
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hi
sponsers were the godparents
Catletown is still a small place, the parish of Castletown covers a larger area. The christening in question Margaret Brphy says they live a Rushall, a townland just outside the village.
My dad always says that the Brophy's came from the Pike of Rushall, and this is the first evidence I have of anyone with the name living there. It needs further investigation to say whether we have a connection or not.
Anne
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Brophy's who had land in 1850 records; Offerlane Parish;
Town of Castletown; Roger Brophy; Land value, £5-5
Knockacoller; Andrew Brophy; £1-5
Monnagh; Thomas Brophy; 10 shillings
Mountainfarm; Michael Brophy; 15 shillings
Michael Brophy; £2-10
Mary Brophy; 5 shillings
Oldborris; Richard Brophy, £3
Rossnaclonagh; Timothy Brophy, £54-15
Rushin; Joseph Brophy, £12
Joseph, 6 shillings
Strahanboy; Anne, 6 shillings
Bughorn; Bridget, 5 shillings
Camross; Mary, £14-10
Churchfield; Mary Brophy 10 shillings
Coolrain; Patrick Brophy, £2-10
Perhaps there are a few relations among those,
Jack
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Thanks for those Jack. Would be interesting to compare the values to todays money. Some would have been considered reasonably comfortable looking at some of those values, wouldn't they?
Unless I can access the parish records though, I don't know how to confirm which, if any, are "mine"
Thanks again
Best Wishes
Catherine
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Hi Catherine/Anne Elizabeth, I know your postings are from several years ago, but only just seen them. My grandmother Margaret Fahy was originally Brophy, and lived in the Pike of Rushall. She was born in 1877/8 and could be a niece or g niece of your Margaret. I don't think there are any Brophys still in that area, however the West family in Mountrath (about 5 miles from Rushall) are related and are likely to have further info. No address.
Good luck.
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Hi
I have a Bridget Brophy - I know she was born in Laois County around 1837. She married John Conroy in Clonaslee in Feb 1857. I don't know any of Bridget's siblings or parent's names. Perhaps there is a connection with your Margaret. The youngest daughter of John and Bridget was named Margaret. She was born in 1876 and immigrated to NY.
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Headstones in Churchtown (Castletown)
James Bergin; Castletown 12/7/1983 (72)
wife-Annie; 4/2/1979 (58)
dtr-Marie; 6/1/1944 (2)
his mtr-Annie Bergin; 6/4/1953 (71)
her bros-Matt-Tom-Jim Brophy
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John Jack Wall; Castletown 12/11/1994
wife-Kathleen (Kate) (nee Brophy) 7/2/2008
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Pike of Rushall graveyard;
Margaret Brophy; Ballytarsna; 29/7/1958 (57)
hus-Patrick; 6/1/1967 (86)
son-Michael; 4/9/1999 (57)
wife-Margaret (Peg) Brophy; 25/2/2010 (73)
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The above may be related to your Brophy family.
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Jack
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Mountrath is very close to castletown and below are Mountrath burial records for the years 1952-2001.
Miss Bridget Brophy;86, spinster, Rushin, 3/9/1955
Anne Brophy; 55, married, Woodbrook, 17/10/1962
Elizabeth Brophy; 74, married, Rushin, 15/6/1963
William Brophy; 85, blacksmith,single, Rushin,26/1/1966
Mary Brophy; 44, married, Drim, 11/12/1969
Baby Brophy; 1day, Woodbrook, 10/6/1970
John Brophy; 34,labourer,married, Fr O Connor Crs,12/9/1977
Michael P.J.Brophy; 4mts, Drim, 3/1/1979
William Brophy; 62, labourer, single, Woodbrook, 30/1/1985
Mrs. T Brophy; 70, married, Shannon rd, 23/10/1988
William Brophy; 84, ret. widower, Woodbrook, 3/2/1989
Edward Brophy; 65, farmer, single, Clonin, 6/11/1989
P.J.Brophy; 73, ret. married, Drim, 7/5/1992
Mrs. Nelly Brophy; 64, widow, Castletown, 16/4/1998
Frank Brophy; 85, mfarmer, married, Clonin, 26/1/1999
Mary Brophy; 7? widow, Rushin, 29/2/2000
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Jack
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Headstones in St Fintans cemetery Mountrath;
Sean Brophy; Fr O Connor Crs, 12/9/1977 (33)
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Bridget Brophy; Shannon rd; 23/10/1985 (70)
hus-Thomas; 10/5/1989
erected by son William and grandson Daniel
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Eileen Fahy; Fr O Connor Crs, 21/1/1994 (57)
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Jack
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Thanks for all the information, I hope some of it links to my family somewhere along the line, I havent been able to get any further with the Brophey family unfortunately, and just hope someone comes across this post who's had better luck than me with Irish research of this family
Regards
Cat :)
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have you found any clues as to Margaret's parents, or siblings since you started your search - e.g. from marriage record or census returns ?
Also, do you know what denomination your Brophy family was ?
There were a number of Brophy families in the area, and these clues might help narrow it down..
Shane