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Hi, I'm hoping someone out there might have more information on the Tobyn Keons of Drumshanbo, Leitrim, Ireland. Phillip Tobyn Keon (born about 1839) came to Australia in 1857, brother Michael Tobyn Keon (born about 1843) in 1864. I'd like to confirm whether Michael and Phillip's parents were Michael Keon and Margaret O'Byrne, and if they had any siblings.
Thanks, Cathy
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Which state in Australia?
Were their parents' names not on marriage/death certificates?
ADDED: I see Phillip and Michael were in Tassie.
Jamjar
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Here is Michael's death in Victoria with parents named:
Reg. year1923 Reg. no14814 KEON Michael Tobyn father KEON Michael Tobyn Mother Margaret (Obyrne) Fitzroy South aged 79
Death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1999301
His wife's death: Reg. year1912 Reg. no3210 KEON Bridgt Helena father Mccormick Michl Ambrose mother Joanna (Lunden) Prahran aged 67
Jamjar
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Is it possible that this is the death of Margaret Keon (OByrne) in Sydney?
KEON MARGARET 2259/1885 Margaret KEON parents Frank and Susan SYDNEY
Death notice, last column, has her as Mrs Michael Tobyn Keon: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article162819485
A personal add in Sydney newspaper, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article104660632
J.
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Michael Keon and Margaret O'Byrne, and if they had any siblings.
Thanks, Cathy
A news item from a sibling regarding one Michael Tobyn KEON and his sister Margaret.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/104660632
A couple of misprints in the item.
Sue
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I'd like to confirm whether Michael and Phillip's parents were Michael Keon and Margaret O'Byrne
Here is Michael's death in Victoria with parents named:
Reg. year1923 Reg. no14814 KEON Michael Tobyn father KEON Michael Tobyn Mother Margaret (Obyrne) Fitzroy South aged 79
Philip remarried in Victoria in 1874, so if the parents named on his marriage cert match those named when Michael died and also taking the newspaper item into account then that is probably as confident as you can get that the names are correct.
Unfortunately it appears that there are no surviving Catholic registers for Drumshanbo prior to 1861.
Debra :)
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.....brother Michael Tobyn Keon (born about 1843) in 1864.
I cannot easily see an immigration record for Michael; which ship did he arrive on?
In 1881 he sponsored Bridget and Susan KEON, but they declined to emigrate.
In 1884 he sponsored Bridget (27), Emily J. (24) and Margaret (56) all of Drumshanbo, Co. Leitrem who arrived on the ship Warwick. Michael T. KEON of Mudgee is described as a brother to all three however it is probable that Margaret was his mother and she was closer to 70 in age.
Debra :)
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Here is Maria in Massachusetts in 1900 - born 1872, immigrated to the USA in 1891:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DCQW-3W6?i=32&cc=1325221
Her death in 1904, she is now age 47:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6759-3G7?i=98&cc=1463156
Debra :)
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Looks like Susan did come out, Debra.
NSW deaths:
120/1917 Bridget Keon parents Michael T and Margaret SYDNEY
12401/1931 Susan A Keon parents Michael T and Margaret RANDWICK
Also a son of Michael T Jnr and Bridget: 9972/1882 Bernard T MUDGEE
J.
Added: Bridget and Susan are buried at Rookwood Catholic:
Keon Bridget 66 25-1-1917 SEC*M2*P**1298
Keon Susan H 74 24-9-1931 SEC*M2*P**3361
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I can't see any obvious immigration record for Susan or the sister Margaret.
Debra :)
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I can't see any obvious immigration record for Susan or the sister Margaret.
Debra :)
And I can't see a marriage or death for an Emily. 🤔
J.
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Michael T. KEON of Mudgee is described as a brother to all three however it is probable that Margaret was his mother and she was closer to 70 in age.
Debra :)
Yes, the Margaret who died was 70 1885, which would be a year or so after the immigration Debra has spotted. The Margaret on the manifest was 56. ::)
However the advertisement from Maria in Massachusetts placed in 1900 does say sister Margaret.
The implication is that Margaret the sister did also immigrate.
Interestingly, Maria does not seem to seek the whereabouts of her other siblings in Australia, just Margaret and Michael.
Sue
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Probate may have been proven in more than one state for a Philip Tobyn KEON who died in WA in 1935, his dad was also named Philip Tobyn KEON.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2TW-9GZG
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32846502 19 March 1935, The West Australian. NB there's 4 notices including family members and also funeral.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12220883 20 March 1935 The Argus, (Victoria).
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/59441431 Sunday Times 19 May 1935 (WA)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17194794 SMH 29 July 1935
And
NSW State Archives has in their Series 4-
206725 Philip Tobyn KEON - died 18/03/1935, Granted on 11/09/1935 https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research
JM
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I can't see any obvious immigration record for Susan or the sister Margaret.
Debra :)
Well, perhaps FitzMurray, our OP, who has been online today will soon let us all know whether the information we have found is of interest.
Meantime, I wondered about this passenger arrival.
From London. Arrived August 24th, 1889
Coptic
Steerage for Sydney Misses Bridget and Susan KEON.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9218662
Did Bridget KEON return to UK, collect Susan then come back to Sydney?
In 1920, Susan A KEON of Roseville donated in memory of parents and sisters.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/115587982
Sue
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Looks like Susan did come out, Debra.
NSW deaths:
120/1917 Bridget Keon parents Michael T and Margaret SYDNEY
12401/1931 Susan A Keon parents Michael T and Margaret RANDWICK
Also a son of Michael T Jnr and Bridget: 9972/1882 Bernard T MUDGEE
J.
Added: Bridget and Susan are buried at Rookwood Catholic:
Keon Bridget 66 25-1-1917 SEC*M2*P**1298
Keon Susan H 74 24-9-1931 SEC*M2*P**3361
The Bridget buried at Rookwood is with: Heaney Thomas 29-8-1908 age 77 SEC*M2*P**1298
Susan is with: Simmons Margaret 24-9-1931 age 50 SEC*M2*P**3361
No headstone inscriptions, unfortunately.
J.
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This Memorial Inscription from Rookwood for Margaret Keon (the mother)seems to confirm that Margaret the daughter was in Australia at the time of the mother's death.
Margaret KEON
Age-71
Born abt 1814
Death Date- 4 Nov 1885
Location Section CC Row 22 Old Catholic Mortuary 1
Inscription:
Wife of Michael Tobyn Keon of Drumshambo, Co Leitrum, Ireland, who died at 81 Macleay St. Potts Point.
Erected by her daughters Margaret & Susan Keon (Iron rail surround)
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Could Bridget be Margaret jnr, as in Margaret Bridget, or Bridget Margaret?
Or maybe she arrived in Australia married.
Jamjar
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Wow! Thank you all, I'm blown away by all the information you've come up with! I do feel a bit silly that I didn't first check newspapers for information, a lesson learned! Many more siblings of Michael and Phillip have come to light now, and you've found their mother's emigration and death as well! The mother Margaret's husband Michael Tobyn Keon the elder died in Carricknabrack, Drumshanbo in 1877 (with Susan A Keon present), so that ties in with her coming to Australia in 1884 with Bridget and Emily. On rereading my notes, I'm not certain which ship Michael emigrated on as there are 2 references I've found - as unassisted immigrant to Victoria aged 17 in 1863 on the Camperdown; and to Sydney, as assisted immigrant on the Ocean Empress aged 23 in 1864. You were right to suggest I check, Dundee - on Phillip's 1874 marriage his parents are listed as Michael Tobyn Keon and Margaret O'Beirne. Thanks again everyone!
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Here is some information about Michael KEON who arrived per Ocean Empress in 1864.
Keon Michael
Aged 23.
Born Donegal, Ireland.
A stone mason.
Roman Catholic.
Could read and Write.
Parents, Hugh and Bridget KEON of Donegal.
Relative in the colony, Peter KEON.
Sue
ADDING, I am not able to see anything further about the Michael KEON to Victoria.
Manifest only shows -
Michael KEON. Steerage passenger, aged 17.
This man was unassisted, so must have somehow gathered the means to pay.
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Great, thanks Sue, that clears up where the Hugh Keon that I've seen mentioned comes from. Maybe Michael's brother Phillip paid for his passage to Victoria. BTW, how did you find that information on the Sydney Keon arrival?
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Digitised on Ancestry by subscription ;D
Sue
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Thanks!