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Title: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: dawnhooper123 on Wednesday 28 June 17 13:55 BST (UK)
Hi. I'm looking for some help tracing back from my 4xgreat-grandparents, Charles Hooper and his wife Charlotte. I believe Charlotte's name was Lawton before she was married. I can find them in the 1841 census living at Cricketts Lane, Ashton-under-lyne, Lancashie with their four children Mary, Thomas, Martha and John and two others (Joseph Platt and Elizabeth Platt). there is a later record on the 1851 census of Charlotte Hooper and her son John as paupers in the Union workhouse. I'm struggling to find anything else for Charles or Charlotte so if anyone can help or point me in the right direction I'd be appreciative. Many thanks. Dawn  :)
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 28 June 17 13:59 BST (UK)
Ages in 1841 were what?
Any candidate marriage for for this couple?
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:02 BST (UK)
For some idea of their ages 1841 has
Charles Hooper   45
Charlot Hooper   45 
Mary Hooper   18 
Thomas Hooper   15
Martha Hooper   5
John Hooper   2

Charles & Charlotte were not bn in county

The Platts are a separate household
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:03 BST (UK)
The 1841 has quite an age gap in kids.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQGF-97Q

2nd marriage, or the last 2 are their grandkids?
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:05 BST (UK)
1851 has Charlotte bn Matley, Chester age 54
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:15 BST (UK)
Hi
There is a marriage for Charles Hooper and Charlotte Lawton in Glossop, Derbyshire, 16th May 1824
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:22 BST (UK)
Martha 1833 Mottram

Mary Ann Hooper
Christening Date 04 Jan 1823
Christening Place:   GEE CROSS UNITARIAN-NC,HYDE,CHESHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:   05 Apr 1822
   
Father's Name:   Charles Hooper

Mother's Name:   Charlotte Shaw
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:23 BST (UK)
Martha 1833 Mottram

Mary Ann Hooper
Christening Date 04 Jan 1823
Christening Place:   GEE CROSS UNITARIAN-NC,HYDE,CHESHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:   05 Apr 1822
   
Father's Name:   Charles Hooper

Mother's Name:   Charlotte Shaw

I was just going to post the same  ;D

Where does the name Lawton come from
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:24 BST (UK)
Isaac John Hooper
Event Type:   Christening
Event Date:   20 Aug 1837
Event Place:   St George, Hyde, Cheshire,
Father's Name:   Charles Hooper
Mother's Name:   Charlotte
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:26 BST (UK)
Thomas Hooper

Birth Date:21 Jun 1824
Birthplace:   Stockport, Derbyshire

Father's Name:   Charles Hooper
Mother's Name:   Charlotte Hooper
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:28 BST (UK)
William Hooper
   
Birthplace:   FORMERLY MILL BROW INDEPENDENT,MARPLE BRIDGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:   07 Apr 1827   
Father's Name:   Charls Hooper
Mother's Name:   Charlotte
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:34 BST (UK)
There is a birth for a Hooper boy in 1837 Hyde mmn Shaw
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:35 BST (UK)
Joseph & Elizabeth Platt

Marriage 27 Dec 1840 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire
Joseph Platt- full age, Butcher, Bachelor, Oldham
Elizabeth Hooper full age, Spinster, Oldham
Groom's Father: James Platt
Witness: Abram Jackson; John Jackson

No mention of Elizabeths father  ???
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:39 BST (UK)
Death Charles Hooper 1849 Ashton under Lyne
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:41 BST (UK)

Charles Hooper
Residence Place:   Ashton
Gender:   Male
Burial Date:   14 Sep 1849
Burial Place:   Lancaster County
Age:   45
Birth Date:   1804
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 June 17 14:47 BST (UK)
Joseph & Elizabeth Platt

Marriage 27 Dec 1840 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire
Joseph Platt- full age, Butcher, Bachelor, Oldham
Elizabeth Hooper full age, Spinster, Oldham
Groom's Father: James Platt
Witness: Abram Jackson; John Jackson

No mention of Elizabeths father  ???

1851 
Joseph Platt   38 Butcher bn Hollinwood, Lancashire
Elizabeth Platt   32 bn Compstall Bridge, Cheshire
John Scholes   34 -visitor bn Ashton under Lyne

If Elizabeth was Charles sister then it could give a clue to his place of birth
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 15:33 BST (UK)
Thomas Hooper and Caroline Butterworth in 1843 at St Michael Mottram in Longdendale

1851
88 Wellington Street Ashton under Lyne
Thomas Hooper   Head 26 born Compstall Bridge Cheshire Cotton Weaver
Caroline Hooper   Wife 24 born Ashton under Lyne
John Hooper Son 5 born Ashton under Lyne
Elizabeth Hooper Daughter 2 born Ashton under Lyne
Martha Ann Hooper Daughter 1/12 born Ashton under Lyne
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 15:35 BST (UK)
Mary Ann Hooper and John Cummins in 1843 at St Michael Mottram in Longdendale
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 15:36 BST (UK)
Charlotte Hooper
Age:   27
Birth Date:1853
Marriage Date:1880
Marriage Place:   Ashton Under Lyne, St. Michael, Lancashire, England
Father:Thomas Hooper
Spouse:Isaac Bennett
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: dawnhooper123 on Wednesday 28 June 17 17:48 BST (UK)
Wow! What an amazing response. Thank you all so much for your help and suggestions for this. For clarification, Charlotte's surname being Lawton was a suggestion from another family member who has tried to do some research in the past but they may have been mistaken and I think what you have found looks much more likely. Thanks again everyone  :D
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 17:52 BST (UK)
Hi
There is a marriage for Charles Hooper and Charlotte Lawton in Glossop, Derbyshire, 16th May 1824

This is the only marriage that I could find. It is in the right area at about the right time. I haven't seen the original so it could be a transcription error
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 17:55 BST (UK)
Charlotte Shaw married John Lawton in Stockport 18th December  1815 :D
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 June 17 18:00 BST (UK)
There is a death for John Lawton in Mottram in Longdendale 25th April 1824 aged 34

He'd still be warm when she remarried! ;D
Title: Re: Charles and Charlotte Hooper
Post by: PaulineJ on Wednesday 28 June 17 18:08 BST (UK)
He'd still be warm when she remarried! ;D

More respectable than moving in as "housekeeper" and getting married 3 kids later...