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Title: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: christineabdy on Saturday 17 June 17 09:39 BST (UK)
I'm researching ancestors of my GG grandfather Robert Smart Turnbull b. Alnham 1828.  I've seen some helpful posts from 2013 that confirmed my own findings about his siblings.  I'm looking for verification of RST's father James Turnbull b.1781 Ovingham (?), RST's uncle John Turnbull b.1787(?) and their parents (possibly James and Ann but no firm leads).  Thanks to anyone who can help or is researching this family. :)
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 17 June 17 10:18 BST (UK)
You have the information for the baptisms
so you are looking for a missing link to confirm your findings

have you tried looking through wills for the Turnbulls there are a few,pre 1858 wills  for Robert Turnbull

Jame's baptism is in the church records
Ovingham St Mary The Virgin
James son of James and Ann Turnbull
of Nafferton,baptised 23rd December 1781
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 17 June 17 10:33 BST (UK)
James and Ann of Nafferton
Thomas,3rd October 1779
also possibly  a older  sibling
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 17 June 17 10:40 BST (UK)
Possible Marriage;
March 1779, St Mary the Virgin, Stamfordham
James TURNBULL to Ann HALL
No actual date given on register (FreeREG)
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 17 June 17 10:58 BST (UK)
Bishops transcripts states
Stamfordham parish
marriages from March 25th 1779 to March 25th 1780

James and Ann are fourth down on the list of 15 marriages performed that year
Ann may have been with child when she married
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 17 June 17 11:22 BST (UK)
Although I worked on this Family in 2013 something doesnt add up here.

James/Elizabeth look possibly to old to be Roberts Parents.

Do you have the 1850 M/C of Robert?

Welcome to Rootschat christineabdy :)

Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 17 June 17 13:48 BST (UK)
Just looking at the 1841 census
Netherton,
can you confirm this is the one you are working from
James Turnbull a tailor aged 60
Eliz Turnbull aged 55
Robert aged 13
all born in County
next door to the Chisholm's (their daughter and family)

the parents in 1851 are aged 71 years and 69,father is now an Inn Keeper born Alwinton,mother Framlington
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 17 June 17 15:40 BST (UK)
Uncle John Turnbull a publican/licencee in  1861 with Robert and his family
is he  in Durham Gateshead in 1841 with his wife Ann and son John aged 30
1851 a widow still in Durham
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 18 June 17 14:01 BST (UK)
I think the only way to go with this one is to purchase the marriage certificate and then at least you do have a confirmed father for him
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: christineabdy on Sunday 18 June 17 15:59 BST (UK)
Many Thanks both for your help.  Yes I agree obtaining the marriage cert is the way forward with this.  I will also check the Bishops Transcripts as you mention, plus wills -which I haven't used before.
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 June 17 09:44 BST (UK)
Please let us know the outcome of the M/C.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: christineabdy on Saturday 01 July 17 17:35 BST (UK)
I have the 1850 marriage certificate, confirming James Turnbull is father of Robert S Turnbull.  I've looked again at previous posts about difficulty finding Robert's baptism, most likely Bishops Transcripts for Rothbury lost for c.1828.
I found baptism of Robert's sister Isabella, and that's raised a new puzzle - i will start a new thread about that.
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 02 July 17 07:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for confirming M/C details :)
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: 4Dancestry on Thursday 06 July 17 15:43 BST (UK)
Hi, I've tried sending a pm but don't know if it had worked.
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 July 17 15:49 BST (UK)
Hi 4Dancestry,
Both of you need 3 posts for the pm system to be activated so it should work soon. Try again.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: christineabdy on Thursday 06 July 17 16:56 BST (UK)
Contact successful, thanks!
Title: Re: Robert Smart Turnbull
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 July 17 17:19 BST (UK)
 ;D