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Title: researching my fathers family .
Post by: Shar10 on Thursday 15 June 17 12:14 BST (UK)
Hi, I am new on here , and I am  not very good on a computer, I am trying to trace my late fathers family from Londonderry/Derry.
his name was William Daly Brown or Browne. his father was William John Brown his father was David Brown and he married Mary Anne Mitchell Davids  father was Patrick Brown who married Isabella Duffym I have got quite a bit of info marriage certificates birth certificates and census results,

but cannot find any record of the birth of David or Patrick or any relations beyond those two.sorry that should read Isabella Duffy,
I would be very grateful for any help advice or information received,
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 15 June 17 12:31 BST (UK)
Lots of information on the family in previous thread where you posted a few times yesterday-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754447.msg6264085#msg6264085

Civil registration of births started in 1864 so there will be no birth certificate for David Brown who married in 1885 as he was born before 1864.

Births from 1864-1916 should be here-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 June 17 12:34 BST (UK)


 lilah1910
I am just posting the same info as on other topic to aid anyone starting to help in the search


David BROWNE / Mary Ann MITCHELL marriage 1885 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10874/5971529.pdf)

David BROWN and family on 1901 census LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Bentley/1539524/)

Death of Mary Ann BROWN May 21 1901 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05728/4616397.pdf)

David BROWN / Lizzie MILLAR marriage 1903 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10224/5721479.pdf)

David BROWN and second family on 1911 census LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/King_Street/606889/)

William John BROWNE / Maggie DALY marriage LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09974/5626600.pdf)

William on 1911 census LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Fountain_Hill/606689/)
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 June 17 12:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: lilah1910 on Thursday 15 June 17 12:14 BST (UK)
but cannot find any record of the birth of David or Patrick or any relations beyond those two.
I would be very grateful for any help advice or information received,

There is an 1862 baptism on rootsireland for a David BROWN ; father Patrick; Mother Isabella with siblings as detailed on first topic
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: Shar10 on Thursday 15 June 17 13:27 BST (UK)
Hi thanks for the replies I have read the other posts and got some  new info on there , I wanted to start my own post as I felt bad  being on the back of someone elses post.
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 15 June 17 13:37 BST (UK)
A brief outline on what seems to have been found already on the other thread-

Patrick Brown m. Isabella Duffy
1. Elleanna [Ellen?] Brown (bapt.18 May 1851)
2. Eliza Brown (bapt.1855-alive 1911)- Elizabeth/Lizzie
3. Sarah Brown (bapt.1857) m.(25 Dec.1863) Thomas McGuire
4. Jane Brown (bapt.1860) m.(26 Oct.1878) Thomas Wright
5. David Brown (bapt.1862) m.(17 Aug.1885) Mary Ann Mitchell (d.1901); m.2 (1903) Elizabeth/Lizzie Millar
     1. William John Brown (c1886)m.(1910) Maggie Daly
          1. William Daly Brown
     2. David Brown (c1888-aft.1911)
     3. Annie Brown (c1894-aft.1901)
     4. Alexander Brown (c1896-aft.1911)
     5. Sarah Ann Brown (c1904-aft.1911
     & 2 ch. d.bef.1911
6. William Brown (29 Apr.1865) ?m.(4 Aug.1890) Ann Jane Smith
7. Anne Brown (14 Feb.1868)

more to follow...

1911- David & Alexander Brown with Mitchell relatives-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Duke_Street/606328

Alexander (1890-1891), son of David Brown & Mary Mitchell-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02430/1904872.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06081/4734466.pdf
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 15 June 17 14:35 BST (UK)
Children of David Brown & Mary Anne Mitchell-
William John (1885) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02625/1968632.pdf
David (1887) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02549/1943236.pdf
? James (28 Aug.1889) mother Mitchell but can't find birth registration
Alexander (1890-1891)
Margaret (1891-1892)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02358/1881000.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06046/4722525.pdf
Annabella (1893) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02304/1863952.pdf
Alexander (1896) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02183/1826276.pdf
Joseph (1900-1900)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01996/1767875.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05761/4627664.pdf

Children of David Brown & Elizabeth Miller-
Sarah Anne (1903) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01859/1724302.pdf
Matilda Mary (1906-1907)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01751/1690717.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05514/4545175.pdf
Robert (1910-1910)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01571/1633414.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05420/4514752.pdf
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: myluck! on Thursday 15 June 17 16:54 BST (UK)
aghadowey - loved the "more to follow..."

Based on the eight children of the first marriage found by aghadowey

Four died in infancy; James, Alexander(1), Margaret & Joseph

LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Duke_Street/606328/) to 1911 census for
David BROWN & Alexander(2) BROWN (both single) who are with their grandmother Margaret MITCHELL
at 47 in Duke Street (Londonderry No. 5 Urban, Londonderry)

LINK (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Benvarden_Avenue/605828/) to 1911 census for
Annie BROWN who is also with MITCHELL relatives
at 19 in Benvarden Avenue (Londonderry No. 5 Urban, Londonderry)

Annie BROWN m William RANKIN on Jul 02 1917 LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1917/09752/5539194.pdf)

and your William John
Title: Re: researching my fathers family .
Post by: Shar10 on Friday 16 June 17 14:10 BST (UK)
thanks to everyone for the help and information I have been on other sites, some I have paid for and although I did get a lot of information from them I have got much more from this one, I will have to see if I can now find family members from my fathers  mothers side.