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Title: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: carolli on Tuesday 06 June 17 16:40 BST (UK)
Hi,experts :) would be grateful if this uniform could be identified. Thanks.
Title: Re: Re: Can anyone identify this WW1 uniform?
Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 06 June 17 17:56 BST (UK)
Hi,experts :) would be grateful if this uniform could be identified. Thanks.

Could you start a new thread pse??? It will save clogging up this one...
Title: Re: Re: Can anyone identify this WW1 uniform?
Post by: carolli on Tuesday 06 June 17 18:25 BST (UK)
 :-[ sorry not used rootschat for ages! Can it be moved ?
Title: Re: Re: Can anyone identify this WW1 uniform?
Post by: moggies12 on Tuesday 06 June 17 20:32 BST (UK)
:-[ sorry not used rootschat for ages! Can it be moved ?

I'm not sure Carolli, I'm a novice here too, but hope you find an answer!

PS Lovely clear photo!
Title: Re: Re: Can anyone identify this WW1 uniform?
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 06 June 17 22:34 BST (UK)
:-[ sorry not used rootschat for ages! Can it be moved ?

Hi Carolli...I have requested that your photo be moved to a new topic.
Carol
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: ev on Wednesday 07 June 17 08:40 BST (UK)
Hi all  :) ,

I've split the topic off and altered the heading of the first post.

Carrolli , do you have a name for this gentleman ?



ev
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 07 June 17 08:58 BST (UK)
Looks more like a WW2 uniform, to my eyes?
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: jim1 on Wednesday 07 June 17 11:25 BST (UK)
With the absence of a cap badge & shoulder title it's not possible to say which regiment he belonged to.
The only info I can get from this is that he's wearing the economy tunic introduced in 1916, he's also wearing a formation patch on his upper arm. If it can be identified it will give you possibly a Division he was in.
Agree with ev some personal details might help.
Have to say the style of this photo has all the hallmarks of the 1920's/30's but as far as I'm aware formation patches were discontinued after WW1 & didn't re-appear until WW2.
Happy to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: tonepad on Wednesday 07 June 17 12:05 BST (UK)
His wristwatch has a shrapnel guard on it.
Unbreakable watch glasses became available in 1916 (Guard not required).
A wristwatch was generally worn by an officer.
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: scrimnet on Friday 09 June 17 22:33 BST (UK)
His wristwatch has a shrapnel guard on it.
Unbreakable watch glasses became available in 1916 (Guard not required).
A wristwatch was generally worn by an officer.

Most Toms who wanted one got hold of or were given wristwatches. The most expensive then as now were Rolex, but they went down in price via silver ones and then to plain gunmetal cased ones. These were cheap and cheerful and used by all ranks
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: scrimnet on Friday 09 June 17 22:35 BST (UK)
With the absence of a cap badge & shoulder title it's not possible to say which regiment he belonged to.
The only info I can get from this is that he's wearing the economy tunic introduced in 1916, he's also wearing a formation patch on his upper arm. If it can be identified it will give you possibly a Division he was in.
Agree with ev some personal details might help.
Have to say the style of this photo has all the hallmarks of the 1920's/30's but as far as I'm aware formation patches were discontinued after WW1 & didn't re-appear until WW2.
Happy to be proved wrong.

Yes the shoulder patch will narrow him down. The tunic is deffo WW1 as it has x2 pleats under the collar which are visible. The post 1922 ptn only had one. The photo, patch and tunic are deffo WW1. I do have an index of these patches somewhere...I'll dig
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: alan o on Tuesday 13 June 17 14:01 BST (UK)
It's a 1915 pattern tunic with the simplified pleats as said the patches are wartime so is likely to  be 1916-19.
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: carolli on Wednesday 20 March 19 12:19 GMT (UK)
So sorry I forgot all about this post. Thanks to everyone who replied. Think you are spot on with the year/s Alan o. The subject (T. E. Crossley) was I believe at home on leave in Manchester at the time of the photo. If I have found the correct record,(Silver Badge Medal Card), he was in the Royal Engineers. The photo is from a glass plate, he was an amateur photographer.
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: John915 on Wednesday 20 March 19 13:13 GMT (UK)
Good afternoon,

Can't find that formation patch anywhere, not British anyway. The closest I have found is Canadian but as two seperate parts. The triangle is an MT COY and the three bars 3rd inf div.

Have to wait and see what Scrimmers comes up with.

John915
Title: Re: WW1 uniform , can anyone provide further information ?
Post by: alan o on Wednesday 27 March 19 20:07 GMT (UK)
  I would post in the Great War Forum and they will ID the patches.