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Title: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: hickoryhardscrabble on Thursday 01 June 17 23:52 BST (UK)
I have two photos attached. One is known: there are three children on a postcard that is labeled on the back "Compliments of Helen, Hazel, Howard Vorberg". Hazel b 1906 and Helen and Howard are twins b 1909. They are first cousins of my great-grandmother Anna Vorberg Blake. I would guess this photo was taken around 1912.

The other photo is of a first communion (found in the same box of photos from my grandfather's side of the family). It appears to be Hazel but wanted to send this out to someone who might have a better idea perhaps based on the clothing.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: jim1 on Friday 02 June 17 10:13 BST (UK)
Mmmmm not convinced about what you say about pic. 1 as the children look different ages also the dropped waist style was something seen from the war years.
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 02 June 17 14:25 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat...I'm not sure that it's either of the girls in photo one. I not sure that the dates fit.
Carol
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: familydar on Friday 02 June 17 17:16 BST (UK)
Could the communion photo be of a girl from the next generation?  I agree with Carol that I don't think it's the same girl as on the postcard.

best wishes
Jane :-)
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: Mike Morrell (NL) on Friday 02 June 17 18:50 BST (UK)
From just 'eyeballing it', the  2 photos are just too different (age, perspective) to detect any resemblance between the two. Nothing in the 2 photo suggests that it's the same person.

Mike
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: hickoryhardscrabble on Friday 02 June 17 22:37 BST (UK)
I know for sure that the picture of the three children are those three children. It is written on the back in pencil in longhand and was mailed as a postcard to their cousin (my great grandmother). I know their birthdates for sure, too. The first communion photo was the one I was stuck on. Found in the same box of photos, all from the same side of the family (my grandfather's family), and the other side of the family (Blake and Dawes) are all light eyed and fair skinned. I thought the round face and nose and eyes seemed to fit with the Vorberg side. But I know definitely I am correct on the first photo. Thank you for your input.
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 03 June 17 01:26 BST (UK)
I would guess the twins in the first photo are older than three, so Jim is probably correct (- he very often/usually is!!    :D)

Could they be as old as 6 to 8?  Hmmm not sure about that, but I do think older than three.  I think they could, making it early war years.

With the others, I am not sure the first communion person is Hazel.  :-\

Wiggy

p.s. Welcome to RootsChat.
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: hickoryhardscrabble on Saturday 03 June 17 03:12 BST (UK)
Oh totally the date could be off! I was simply stating that it was pretty clear it was those three children.
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 03 June 17 04:15 BST (UK)
Is there a dated postmark/stamp on the back of the postcard?

The second girl could be a more distant relation - cousin, niece, daughter of family friend, etc, etc ....
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: hickoryhardscrabble on Sunday 04 June 17 22:45 BST (UK)
It was addressed to Anna Carrie Vorberg on S. 12th street, St. Louis but not sent with a stamp. I know Anna lived on S. 12th street in the 1910 census and she was married in 1917, so that gives me a clue that it was sent around that time--and it is clearly marked with Hazel, Helen, and Howard.

I really believe the first communion girl is a Vorberg just based on her features, and the family is small. She has two other girl cousins b 1890 and 1892. Is the general consensus that the first communion picture is older or younger?

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: Scribble1952 on Sunday 11 June 17 01:18 BST (UK)
A communion dress is sometimes handed down in Famlies From one generation to another.
I would say looking at both pictures the girl in the middle on the first photo and the girl in the communion
dress are the same person.
Title: Re: Comparing two photos: same Vorberg girl?
Post by: hickoryhardscrabble on Tuesday 13 June 17 00:57 BST (UK)
Thanks~I thought their faces looked so similar, and my family was sort of betting on it being the same girl, just out of proximity of the photos and so forth. She had two much older half sisters (her mother was married twice), in addition to mother and aunts. And I know they were Catholic (and not everyone in that box of photos was). Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on the topic!