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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: Cazza47 on Tuesday 30 May 17 18:54 BST (UK)
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I am looking for parents of Thomas Ostle (can also be Ostell/Ostel) he was born in 1851 Longtown reg. he is living with his mother Isabella in Cumrew in 1861, with siblings plus children with Little surname, Isabella is married to Jonathan Ostle who is working as a servant at Chapel House, Talkin. Their children Thomas 1851, Christopher 1853, Mary Jane 1856, William 1858 & Margaret 1862 all have the mother's maiden name as Little according to gov reg site. The only marriage I can find for Jonathan Ostle is a marriage to a Isabella Hunter, there obviously was a marriage between an Ostle & Hunter because there are children Joseph, Robert, Jane & hannah whose mother's maiden name is Hunter. By 1871 Jonathan appears to be working at Netherton, Talkin for the Dobson Family, also working there is son Christopher. Mary Jane, William & Margaret now live at Ringate, Hayton but their mother is now Elizabeth, confused I certainly am. I cannot find Thomas but he married Mary Palmer in 1872.
Can anyone help with this?
I am sure Isabella's surname must be Little.
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I am sure Isabella's surname must be Little
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Given the presence of Little children in household - have you considered that Isabella may have been previously married?
Have you found any birth entry for any of the Little's to check mmn?
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Marrriage of Isabella Hunter, father - Adam Bell
2 Aug 1845,Holme-Cultram, Cumberland, England
Spouse - Jonathan Ostle
Therefore this Isabella was a widow (had hoped her father would have the surname Little). So not the correct marriage ???
JJ
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I am looking for parents of Thomas Ostle (can also be Ostell/Ostel) he was born in 1851 Longtown reg. he is living with his mother Isabella in Cumrew in 1861, with siblings plus children with Little
What is the relationship to 'head' given for the 'Little' children on the census & who is listed as 'head'?
Annie
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The Little's are shown as boarders - not as children or other relative to Isabella
Isabella is shown as head (wife)
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Hi would I be correct that Isabella shows a pob as Arturett/Arthurett in 1861 and aged 38, a married Isabella Ostley 30 occ Labourers wife is with a William Beattie and family in Westlinton, Longtown in 1851
Census ref HO107/2428/307/4
Keyboard86
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In 1851 there is another Isabella and Jonathan Ostle but they were in the Wigton RD
HO107 Piece 2433 Folio 10 Page 13
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Ancestry tree shows parents of Isabella Little as Christopher Little and Jane Nixon.
Christopher and Jane married 8 February 1807 Arthuret Cumberland.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXVP-RHS
This couple appear on the 1841 census Arthuret Longtown Cumberland. Census shown on family search is a little mixed up ::)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M73F-VDN
Christopher Little 60 - Jane Little 60 - Isabella Little 20
No source for marriage to Jonathan Ostle.
Sandra
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On the 1861 the John Little aged 14 b. Arthuret, Cumberland, is recorded as son.
Baptism -
John Little
Baptism - 11 Apr 1847, Arthuret, Cumberland
Mother - Isabella Little
JJ
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Marriage Christopher Little & Jane Nixon 1807
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXVP-RHS
Annie
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"By 1871 Jonathan appears to be working at Netherton, Talkin for the Dobson Family, also working there is son Christopher. Mary Jane, William & Margaret now live at Ringate, Hayton but their mother is now Elizabeth, confused I certainly am. I cannot find Thomas but he married Mary Palmer in 1872"
I'm sure I have read on RC that Elizabeth & Isabel(la) are/were interchangeable not too long ago on a thread but maybe I'm mistaken?
Annie
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Hi again in 1851 census a David Little 5 and a John Little 4 are shown as Grandsons to a Christopher 74 and Jane 72 Little
English Street, Longtown
Census ref HO107/2428/193/36
Keyboard86
EDIT In 1861 census David Little aged 14 b Arthuret is an Apprentice Calico Printer boarding with a John Carlisle at 3, James Street, Botchergate
Census ref RG09/3916/96/24
Baptism David Little 13th June 1846 Arthuret Mother Jane Little
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Thank you for all responses, another problem is that in 1861 census Jonathan gives his place of birth as 'Fatthouse' Cumberland but in 1871 census it is now Isel. I have never heard of Fatthouse.
Carol
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Are you still looking for this family? I have them in my tree.