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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: cyclamen on Saturday 27 May 17 20:28 BST (UK)
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I am interested in a Robert Patton, late of Cardbeign, Springsure, who died 22nd April 1878 in Levuka, Fiji. I have found a newspaper article which mentioned that his friends wished to erect a tablet to his memory in the Presbyterian Church, Springsure. The church is now closed but I wonder if anyone has a photograph of the tablet in the church (if one was actually erected)? A long shot I know!
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Hi cyclamen,
Cant help you much but why not email the Woolshed Information Centre at Springsure they might know something.
https://www.mycommunitydirectory.com.au/Queensland/Central_Highlands/Communication___Information/Community_Information___Referral_Services/127323/The_Wool_Shed_Information_Centre
The Presbyterian Church was closed after 150 years in 2011.
Gerry
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Thank you for your suggestion Gerry. It's worth a try!
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Hello,
Just wondering where you are? Just thought I'd let you know I live about 40minutes from Springsure, know a few people in the area, and will, in the next few days, check around for you about the memorial tablet. Please let me know if you have already been successful and I will leave it to yourself. Hope to hear from you and then decide what I need to do. Also if there is anymore info. you may want, let me know, I can even phone a few places if needed. bee
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Hello bee,
Thank you so much for your kind offer. I live in Northern Ireland so am a little distance away. I emailed the Woolshed Information Centre as Gerry suggested but as yet have had no reply.
I would very much appreciate any help you are able to give. I am trying to tie up a few loose ends. Robert Patton was brought in the house which is our family home and I am trying to put together a short history of his family.
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Hello again,
Yes there was a tablet erected, have been speaking to a man who heard about Robert PATTON. Have been given another person to contact to find out where the tablet was located now, so will get back to you as soon as I can with more info. and hopefully photos. The man I was speaking to also had heard that PATTON brought men out from Fiji as workers (have you heard of this). Will be in contact as soon as I have heard more. Is the tablet all you want, have you acquired enough info. on this man or would you like me to send what I dig up? bee
p.s. A couple of things on Trove (newspaper) of interest.
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Thank you so much for doing this for me. The information I have about Robert Patton came mainly from Trove - a wonderful resource!
No, I didn't know that he brought out workers from Fiji. Perhaps that is why, at the time of his death, he was on a trip to the South Seas. Have you any idea how I would go about getting a death certificate for him? Would records be held in Fiji?
While I started off just wanting a photo of the memorial tablet I have now become very interested in his life. It would be nice to be able to tell his story in as much detail as I can.
I would be very grateful for any additional information you are able to dig up.
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Hi, Nice that there was a tablet erected for Robert Patton, well done chasing that one up mrs.bee.5.
The the Queensland State Archives have 3 archived items for a Robert Patton
Series ID, 1215, Item ID, 2327652, Record type, Legal Agreements.
Series ID, 4486, Item ID, 2803013, Record type, Ecclesiastical Will.
Series ID, 5739, Item ID, 2704677, Record type, Register - Justices of the Peace.
https://www.qld.gov.au/dsiti/qsa/
Search under catalogue for Robert Patton.
Gerry
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Morning Bulletin (Rockhampton), Thursday, 10th October 1878, page 2.
Under, "Cruise of the Stanley"
"Whilst at Levuka, Mr Robert Patton, passenger of the Stanley from Mackay, died at the Hotel."
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51978033?searchTerm=
Gerry
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Back again,
The "long shot" has come home. Off to Springsure in the morning (Sunday) to meet up with a woman who was very, very excited to hear from me. Well actually to hear some one was interested in the memorial tablet and especially from Northern Island.
Believe it or not, her (I think) GGGrandfather lived in the same place as Robert PATTON (Northern Island) and also came out here on the same ship. His name being McLaughlin or similar spelling. I will be getting as much info. as possible and a photo of the tablet.
I think I'm as excited as her as being able to help someone with this.
Till tomorrow, will charge the camera up now.
Please let me know if there is anything you may especially want to know so I can ask her.
Till tomorrow. bee :) :) :) :
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Hi, Nice that there was a tablet erected for Robert Patton, well done chasing that one up mrs.bee.5.
The the Queensland State Archives have 3 archived items for a Robert Patton
Series ID, 1215, Item ID, 2327652, Record type, Legal Agreements.
Series ID, 4486, Item ID, 2803013, Record type, Ecclesiastical Will.
Series ID, 5739, Item ID, 2704677, Record type, Register - Justices of the Peace.
https://www.qld.gov.au/dsiti/qsa/
Search under catalogue for Robert Patton.
Gerry
Generally, a death certificate is included with a will. Whether or not this is the case for deaths which occurred abroad, I don't know. If you would like to continue with this search and are interested in the contents of Robert's will, let me know and I can do a look up for you at the State Archives. :)
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Hello Ruskie,
Thanks, I'm sure cyclamen will let you know when she has info. I hope to send her after tomorrow.
Hope to post as soon as I can, I know what it is like waiting for bits and pieces. bee
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Thank you everyone for all your help. I just didn't expect to find out so much about Robert. It is a strange feeling being in the same house where Robert would have grown up and taken leave of his family all those years ago to head off to Australia for a new life!
Ruskie. I would very much appreciate it if you could do a look up at the State Archives for me. I have information about his siblings - a sister Mary who predeceased him and a brother Joseph who was a lawyer in England. I found from one of the Australian newspapers that after his death Robert's land was transferred to Joseph Patton who would have been his next of kin.
Bee. You are amazing! Thank you so much for this. I can't believe that your contact's ancestors came from this area. A small world. I don't have any information about the ship Robert emigrated on and would love to have details of this and any other Limavady people who may have travelled with them. McGonigle is quite a common name in this area but if I am able to help this lady in any way I would be delighted to do so! I have a feeling there is someone in our FH Society who is researching this name. I look forward to hearing from you after your visit to Springsure.
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Sorry group, please let me know how to add photos to this message, thanks.
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Hello,
Have the photos and have tried several times, as you can see, without any luck. The kids are going to try tonight with me. THEY WILL BE SEEN. bee
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Cyclamen,
I will try to get to the Archives in the next week or two. :)
As well as the will is there anything else you would like me to check for you?
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Many thanks Ruskie. I think information from the will and possibly the death certificate, if there is one, is all I need. Look forward to hearing from you. Bee has come up trumps with photos of the tablet!
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Thanks. I will see what I can come up with
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Hello,
Glad the photos were received, sorry not perfect in frame, not that good at photography, it sort of scares me. Lorna who was a wonderful person, in her 80's, would like to know, if you can, a little info. about her ancestors. Her GGGrandfather, Thomas McLaughlin, lived in Catherine Street, Limavady and was that near your current home. She wasn't sure if or which ship he came out on or with Robert PATTON at all. Hope to hear from you or even the person who may be searching this name or different spelling, as you have pointed out. Thanks...bee
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I'll see what I can find out. Did Lorna by any chance give you any dates? McLaughlin is such a common name in this area some dates would be helpful.
Catherine Street, Limavady, was actually where my grandmother's family lived. The town of Limavady is about 3 miles from Robert Patton's family home.
I will get back to you if I find anything.