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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: krytines on Wednesday 24 May 17 18:44 BST (UK)
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Hi! I am looking for information about my Great Great Grandfather Samuel Shiels who died October 13 1878 in Aghadowey district of Coleriane Derry Ireland. I was hoping to find a newspaper obituary . If anyone could help me find that I would appreciate it very much.
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Hello
Think I found his Will/probate. Left to Margaret, widow.
Any good?
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639566360
Janine
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Widow Margaret Shiells was granted premission to administer Samuel's estate as he left no Will-
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Samuel Shiells late of Ballydevitt County Londonderry Labourer deceased who died 14 October 1878 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Margaret Shiells of Curragh (Milltown Ballymoney) in said County the Widow of said deceased. effects under £20.
Strangely enough, no sign of him in Valuation Revision Book 1865-1880 under Ballydevitt (or Margaret under Curragh 1864-1888).
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Thanks Janine and aghadowey yes it seems that must be him thanks for sending the Will. It is strange that there is no sign of Samuel in the Valuation Revision Book . More mystery I am beginning to think I am searching for a needle in a haystack! Tomorrow I am on to looking for John Samuel and Margaret in Scotland so have signed up for Scotslandpeople. Wish me luck! I think this will cost me a pound or two!
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If you need any help with SP searches post the information on the Scotland board :)
ev
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Yes thank you I will certainly look into that!
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Not what you were originally looking for but I've found details of 2 children of Samuel Shiels and Margaret Martin! Still putting it altogether and will post later :)
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Thank you so much aghadowey will look forward to seeing that!
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Robert Charles Price Shields (c1859 Co.Derry-1949) m.(1889 Belfast) Sarah Barr (c1865-1925)
1859 baptism posted previously may have incorrect birthdate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10721/5908754.pdf (railway official, father Samuel- landstewart) 1891- porter
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/Well_Street/1213760 (dock lab.)
1907 directory- 15 Well St. vacant
1918 directory- Delaware St.: 32. Shields, Robt., van man (not there in 1910)
burial (Sarah) https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8167.3477
burial (Robert) https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8107.6653
1. Samuel Shields (1889-aft.1901) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02456/1912568.pdf (16 Glasgow St., railway porter)
2. Robert Charles Price Shields (9 Nov.1891 Belfast-26 June 1935 Vancouver) m.(12 Mar.1923 Burnaby, BC) Mary “Minnie” Lyttle (c1898 Pettigo-aft.1935). birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02371/1885221.pdf (36 Parkmount St., father- porter)
marriage: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD89-ZYS
Death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRB-C3X
3. John Livingstone Shields (1894-aft.1901) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02275/1854475.pdf (36 Parkmount St, lab.)
4. George Shields (c1896-aft.1901) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02175/1823858.pdf (15 Well St., mother Sarah Jones)
5. Annie Shields (c1899-aft.1901)
6. William Shields (1901-25 May 1922) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01957/1755517.pdf (15 Well St., lab.)
Belfast Newsletter, 26 May1922, p.1: SHIELDS- May 25, 1922, at Royal Victoria Hospital (from gunshot wounds), William, fifth and dearly-beloved son of Robert and Sarah Shields, 32, Delaware Street, Interment notice later. Same date, page 7: RENEWED DISORDER IN BELFAST. Fierce Fighting in the East End… William Shields, a well-known footballer, was shot dead. (under Casualty List it says he was shot in the head)
Irish Times, 12 July 1922: On the 12th of July 1922 the Irish Times reported into the death of William Shields, aged 21 of 32 Delaware Street Belfast. Mr. Shields was returning from work when he was shot by a sniper. Witnesses at the inquest told how they reported the incident to soldiers who only laughed. Mr. Sheilds was a professional footballer and described as a very promising lad.
https://issuu.com/glenravel/docs/mcmmurders/75 (includes photo)
burial: https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8147.955
7. Susan Elizabeth Martin Shields (1903) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01871/1728840.pdf (15 Well St., lab.)
8. Thomas Hugh Shields (5 Sept.1906 Belfast-4 May 1972 Vancouver) m. Vera Marguerite Watts (d.bef.1972)
birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01732/1684837.pdf (72 Mount St., lab.)
death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLTH-PNL
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Samuel Shields (c1863 Co.Derry-1935) m.(1888) Sarah (c1869 Co.Antrim-1944)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10763/5925374.pdf (Samuel- coachman, Segorry, father- Samuel ploughman, witness Maggie Anderson)
1896- Haw, coachman
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Stranocum/Stranocum/943100 (Samuel b.co.Derry, coachman)
1906- Stranocum, coachman
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Stranocum/Stranocum/126872 (Samuel b.Co.Antrim, Chaffeur Labourer, m.22 yrs 8 ch/8 liv.)
1917- 33 Upper Frank St., Belfast
William & Samuel- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/RobertThompsonBallymoney1.htm
d.1935 https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8237.12174
d.1944 (Sarah) https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8321.989
1. William Shields (c1889 Co.Down-1917 WWI)
? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/New_North_Queen/142316 (National School Teacher)
Lived in England before WWI.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/104840/SHIELDS,%20WILLIAM
Administration of the Estate of William Shields late of 33 Upper Frank Street Belfast Lieutenant Royal Flying Corps who died 5 September 1917 in France granted at Belfast to Samuel Shields Chauffeur. Effects £310 19s 5d
2. Annie/Ann Shields (c1891 Co.Down-1978) https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8431.2905
3. Samuel Shields (1891 Seaforde, Co.Down-1916 WWI) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02351/1878743.pdf
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1552537/SHIELDS,%20SAMUEL
4. Martha Jane/Maud Shields (1894 Stranocum-1993) m. Norman Wright
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02253/1847443.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8761.9256
5. Neal Shields (1896 Haw, Ballymoney-1976) ?m. Olive
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02153/1816476.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8415.1896
6. Robert Charles Shields (c1900-aft.1911)
7. Sarah Shields (c1901 Co.Ant.-1976)
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8417.2060
8. Margaret Shields (c1905 Stranocum-1974) m. ___ Harris
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01808/1708293.pdf
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8395.427
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John Livingstone Shields (reply #8) died 1968- possibly married to Florecen who's buried in same plot
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8827.5200
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Hi Aghadowey! Thank you so much for all you have done for me all the researching I am sure was very time consuming then recording it all and sending it to me I am truly grateful. I did not know that Samuel and Margaret had sons Robert Charles Price Shields and a Samuel Shields but as time goes on I am beginning to see there is a lot I don't know. Today I did some research on Samuel and Margarets son John my Grt. Grandfather and I think I may have found his birth record in Scotland date of birth 1855 it is hard to read very poor writing but it requires more investigating. I will let you know. Thanks again for everything you have been so kind.
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Robert Charles Shiels was baptised 1859 at Churchtown Presbyterian Church and seems to have added Price to his name. I found his brother Samuel after I discovered Samuel named a son Robert Charles. Samuel's marriage record was interesting as it listed his residence as Seygorry (named after St. Guaire), his father as a ploughman (a more skilled job than 'labourer') and Margaret Anderson was a witness (she also lived in Seygorry and was connected to my grandfather's family).
An 1855 Scottish birth certificate is a goldmine of information so let us know if you are having trouble deciphering it all.
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Hi! Well I am back to the drawing board the Birth Record that I thought might me my Great Grandfather John Shiels (Shields) had the wrong parents!! So disappointed but I am still determined to find a birth record for this man so I am going through all the Births for the name Shiels and Shields in Scotland from 1855-1862 so I can rule out the possibility of him being born there. I am still going on the fact that his marriage registration (second marriage) has his parents listed as Samuel Shields and Margaret Martin and his birthplace Renfrewshire. I may never find out but at least I know I did my best. Thank you Aghadowey for all your help and anyone else who has been following my story.
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Bad luck that. Other spellings might be Sheals, Sheills, Sheil, Sheilds...
Haven't had any luck tracing Mary O'Hara yet :-\
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As it turns out I am tracing this family who cross into mine. Thomas Price Shields married Jane(Jeanie) Herriot. His parents were Samuel Shields a Land Stewart and Margaret Martin who were both deceased by 27 Apr 1900. . Samuel died in 1941 in Glasgow. Will look inot it more as time goes on as i have just started on this line.
Cheers
Janet in New Zealand
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Good Morning! Just wanted to let you know that if you are referring to Samuel Shiels Father of Thomas Price Shields his death date is October 14 1878 in County Londonderry. If I can be of any help with your research on the Shiels/Shields family I would be happy to try.
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Hi
I am the great grandson of Robert Charles Price Shields
My grandmother was Annie Shields (1899- 7/3/1977) She married Alexander Moore. They had two boys, William Shields Moore and Norman Alexander Moore. Norman was my father.
I can provide more information on
Geroge B Shields (died 12/1979)
John L Shields (died 1968) I have his war medals
Susan Elizabeth Shields (died circa 1980)
KM
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Hello Kenneth!
Thank you so much for sending the information on the Shields family I did not have some of those dates so that really helped me out . I am doing a family history on the Shields it is a challenge to find information on them especially prior to civil registration there are virtually no records so I have really had to hunt and not living in Northern Ireland I can't investigate on my own for example church records, I live in Nova Scotia Canada. My biggest challenge is finding a record for the birth of my Great Grandfather John Shields son of Samuel and Margaret I estimate he was born around 1855/6 and the only reason I know that he is the son of Margaret and Samuel is from his marriage registration which lists those two as his parents he would be the oldest child. I have a question for you do you know if Margaret Martin/Shields died Nov. 8 1907 at the Gourock Parochail Ayslum Institution in Scotland? I have a death registration for a Margaret Shields but am not 100% sure if it is her. I am curious as to why she was in Scotland . Any information you could give me on the Shields family would be greatly appreciated and if I can help you with information I would be happy to do that. Hope to hear from you again!
Best Wishes
Ginny Dion
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Ginny
I will be over in Belfast next week and I will speak with Joanne Kane (nee Shields) daughter of George Shields. She may recall the scotish connection. I recall some people visiting in the late 1960's/early 1970s from Scotland.
Have you connected with the Shields in Vancouver. They came to visit in 1970s.
Kenneth
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Ginny
I just spoke to my mum and went over your email.
Sge pointed out thatI Gourock, should be Greenock in Scotland. She recalls her mother-law (Annie Moore) visiting Greenock Scotland. John Shields would have been my grandmother's uncle. Maybe if your search Greenock Parochail Ayslum Institution you may have more luck.
My mum asked me to ask you what is your connection with the Shields of Scotland.
Regards
Kenneth
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Ginny
I just spoke to my mum and went over your email.
Sge pointed out thatI Gourock, should be Greenock in Scotland. She recalls her mother-law (Annie Moore) visiting Greenock Scotland. John Shields would have been my grandmother's uncle. Maybe if your search Greenock Parochail Ayslum Institution you may have more luck.
My mum asked me to ask you what is your connection with the Shields of Scotland.
Regards
Kenneth
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Good Morning Kenneth!
In answer to your Mothers question regarding the Shields family in Scotland my Great Grandfather John Shields (he is the one I cannot find a birth record for) and his wife Matilda/Watton Shields moved along with three of their children from Ireland to Greenock Scotland around 1883 I am not sure why they moved perhaps it was so John could get better work, there were lots of jobs on the docks working in the sugar industry The oldest son William Shields who is my Grandfather met and married Agnes Knox in Greenock in 1903. Their oldest son John is my Father he was born in Greenock in 1908 John and Matilda immigrated to Canada in 1907 and William and Agnes immigrated to Canada in 1911. They all settled in the Vineland area of Ontario Canada.
I am afraid I do not know of any Shields relatives in Vancouver B.C. The only Shields family I know live in Ontario Canada.
Any questions you might have regarding the Shields in Canada I will try and answer for you. Thank you again for helping me and hopefully on your trip to Belfast to visit Joanne she might be able to answer some questions. If you want to communicate with me outside of the Roots Chat send me your email address it might be easier to communicate that way and we could send family pictures if you like.
Best Wishes
Ginny
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Ginny
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Kenneth
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