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Hi
I am investigating the family of Brice Henry (1773-1862) and Mary Nelson (1772-1850) of Shanrod Co Down. Although I am about to ask about a Holmes family I will list the Henry family. Bryce Henry born 1802 was my 3x gt grandfather.
James Henry b c1798 d 1849 m Mary Nelson of Knockgorm.
Agnes Henry b c1801
Bryce Henry b c1802 d 1879 Dunsilly m Eliza Ewing
Revd John Henry b 1807 d 1885 m Eliza Porter or a unnamed daughter of Rev Sam Edgar.
Nelson Henry b c1810 d 1881 m Margaret
Mary Henry b c1813
Thomas Henry b c 1815 d 1901 m Mary Jane Kirkpatrick
Isaac Henry b c 1817 d 1884 m Mary Mulligan
James Henry, grandson of Revd John Henry originally of Benraw, married a Mary Holmes, daughter of Thomas Holmes in 1884. James Henry died in Craigantlet and I discovered a Bryce Holmes in a neighbouring property. Further searching showed Thomas Holmes moved to Craigantlet in 1887.
Thomas Holmes and his wife Mary Jane McElroy who married 4 Nov 1853 Banbridge had among other sons; James Nelson Holmes b 1870, Isaac Holmes b 1872 and Brice Holmes born 1876.
To me that suggests that Thomas Holmes , who was born c1825 and died 1896 was related to the Henry family as listed. Alternatively it was his wife who was related. I would like to know if anyone has any information on the Holmes family that might help confirm this.
Brice Henry born 1773 was the son of James Henry (1736) and Mary Kennedy. A brother John Henry born c1766 who died 1844 married Agnes Nelson of Knockgorm. Agnes was likely a sister of the younger Mary Nelson who married Brice's son James Henry. As far as I know this couple had no children.
I only know of one other sibling, a brother Thomas but there were very likely others one of whom who could be an ancestor of Thomas Holmes or Mary Jane McElroy.
???
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you may them all but just in case
Locations in Co Down
Craigantlet townland Newtownards Civil Parish
Banbridge in Ballyvally townland;Seapatrick civil parish
Benraw townland in Drumgooland civil parish further south
Knockgorm townland Garvaghy civil parish 3km SW of Garvaghy villag
Shanrod townland Garvaghy civil parish 3km S of Garvaghy villag
from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Miss Agnes HENRY . Garvaghy daughter of James Henry ; married James Coburn 14 Jan 1854 CR
Brice HENRY . Seapatrick son of James Henry ; married Mary Jane Kelly 17 Nov 1856 CR
James HENRY . Garvaghy of Knockgorm; d. 28 Nov 1845 aged 47; husband of Mary; buried Kilkinamurry Presbyterian graveyard; willprobated 1846 MIs; IIW V4 p60
John HENRY . Garvaghy of Shanrod; died 27 Sep 1844 aged 78; husband of Agnes who died 27 May 1828 aged 44; buried Garvaghy parish graveyard MIs
HOLEMS . . see under Holmes .
Thomas HOLENS . Garvaghy farmed over one acre so granted a spinning wheel premium & the right to grow flax in 1796 Irish Flax Growers list
Mrs. Elizabeth HOLMES . Seapatrick regd. Banbridge; daughter of James Harpur; a widow; married Benjamin Davis 18 Feb 1860 CR
Robert HOLMES . Garvaghy of Shanrod; will probated in 1839; executor was B. Henny of Shanrod
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/garvaghy-parish.php#.WSHg91KZMwR
Henry, Brice Townland: Shanrod Year: 1834
Henry, James Townland: Knockgorm Year: 1834
Henry, John Townland: Shanrod Year: 1834
Holmes, John-Townland: Shanrod Year: 1834-Garvaghy-Down-
Holmes, Robert-Townland: Shanrod Year: 1834-Garvaghy-Down-
McIlroy, Alexr. Townland: Kilkinamurry Year: 1834
McIlroy, John Townland: Garvaghy Year: 1834
McIlroy, John Townland: Kilkinamurry Year: 1834
Neilson, Ebenezer Townland: Knockgorm Year: 1834
Neilson, John Townland: Kilkinamurry Year: 1834
Nelson, Eben. Townland: Knockgorm Year: 1834
Nelson, James Townland: Carnew Year: 1834
Nelson, James Townland: Garvaghy Year: 1834
Nelson, John Townland: Carnew Year: 1834
Nelson, John Townland: Kilkinamurry Year: 1834
Nelson, Moses Townland: Fedney Year: 1834
Nelson, Samuel Townland: Fedney Year: 1834
good luck onwards
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Thank you BallyaltikilliganG
I have not yet made a habit of viewing the irishgenealogyhub tithes as I only recently found out about them. So all that information is new to me.
I tend to go to the PRONI site first for the revisions. I had not yet managed to read the townland for Thomas Holmes when I posted, but a look at a second child's birth took me to Drumgooland and thence to Legananny. I have only viewed the first revision and Thomas is not there but other Holmes are. Thomas Holmes appears at 16A in Craigantlet in 1887.
The evidence of an earlier Henry connection is mounting. There is that will you noted (which I had not seen) Robert HOLMES . Garvaghy of Shanrod; will probated in 1839; executor was B. Henny of Shanrod.
Also I have since been informed that Rev John Henry (father of James Henry who married Mary Holmes) officiated at the 1853 marriage of Thomas Holmes and Mary McElroy.
I think the B Henny of Shanrod would be my 5x gt grandfather Brice Henry of Shanrod who I am told died 1852. My own 4x gt grandfather Bryce Henry may have already been at Dunsilly by 1839 as that was about when he married. The Brice Henry at Shanrod in the Griffths valuations was a grandson of Brice senior but born 1823 (son of James b1798), so not the executor of the 1839 will.
Pure speculation would suggest that Robert Holmes might have been a brother in law of Brice Henry senior. However the information I received about the 1853 marriage of Thomas Holmes confirms the Ulster Historical Foundation site index information that his father was another Thomas Holmes.
Cheers
Linda
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Rootsireland information on Rev John Henry confirms he married Eliza Porter, not a daughter of Rev Samuel Edgar as seen in a presbyterian ministry record.
Rev John Henry was the Presbyterian Minister for Leitrim but the church and his farm next door were in Benraw.
The source of most of the early Henry family information is a family history written in 1930 by Dr Robert Nesbitt, who married Annie Coburn granddaughter of James Henry b1798 of Knockgorm. James son Ebenezer Henry took over the Knockgorm farm after James wife Mary nee Nelson died.
The John Henry is in Shanrod in the Tithes is presumaby this John Henry who married Agnes Nelson of Knockgorm. Brother of Brice Henry senior.
In memory of Agnes Henry, wife to John Henry of Shanrod, who departed this life the 27th of May 1828 aged 44 years Also in memory of the above John Henry of Shanrod who departed this life the 27th of September 1844 aged 78 years.
Cheers Linda
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glad the tithes were useful have you tried http://www.newtownards.info for craigantlet and names
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Hi BallyaltikilliganG
I am still revelling in the Ros Davies site, thank you. Co Down is new to me as up to now my family from my grandfather backwards have all been Co Antrim (with a few side steps to the Down side of Belfast). So this site is new to me also.
:)
Cheers
Linda
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Stone in Leitrim Presbyterian burying ground.
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Hi Drumgooland,
Thank you so much for the tombstone image. I did not have a date of death for Elizabeth Porter. The Rootsireland entry has their marriage as 20 Oct 1838.
I did have the notice of death for her father . 28 May 1847 On the 22d inst., at an advanced age, Hugh Porter, Esq., of Gargory Cottage, near Castlewellan.
Eliza's sister Margaret Porter married Dr Samuel Rae. It was following up his name which led to his wife's maiden name, that helped confirm the Porter connection.(Prior to finding the rootsireland marriage). The tombstone however says it all.
Rev John Henry (brother of my 3x gt grandfather Bryce Henry) and Elizabeth Porter had 4 sons; Rev John Edgar Henry b1841, Rev Samuel Rae Henry b 1847, Arthur Henry b1850 who inherited the farm then emigrated to NZ, and James Henry b 1852.
Cheers
Linda (NZ)
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The adjacent grave is also Henry; it's rather difficult to read...
Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord
Here rest
the bodies of
FREDRICK PORTER HENRY
who died 24th March 1855
Aged 15 years
[of]? THOMAS HENRY
who died 10th October 1866, Aged 22 years
and of ANNA and HUGH RICE HENRY
both of whom died in infancy
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The two Henry graves are in a corner of the graveyard...
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...overlooking the Mourne Mountains:
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Thank you Drumgooland for the beautiful photos. The Henry's chose a spot with the best view didn't they?
My mother who is 92, talks about one of her father's (born Ireland 1894) favourite songs, featuring the Mountains of Mourne. The Henry's are my father's family and his father was born in Antrim in 1896.
I should think the hard to read son could be Hugh Brice Henry as Reverend John Henry's father was Brice Henry of Shanrod and Eliza's father was Hugh. The Bryce name has been handed down through the generations.
Cheers
Linda (NZ).
Antrim: Templepatrick: Graham, Wiley, Lynn, Courtney.
Dunsilly: Gawn, Maxwell, Price, Henry
Coolsythe: Ewing, McKelvie
Down: Shanrod: Brice Henry.
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Hi lmgnz
I am interested in the details that you provided at the start of this thread.
I have been researching the Henry family on Family Search because it links in with the McAuley family and also I am very interested in the marriage between Bryce Henry (b 1802) and Eliza Ewing.
I have found multiple sources for Bryce's wife being called Eliza but have not found any sources for her being a Ewing.
One of their sons married a McAuley, and her mother is Nancy Ewing. I think Eliza and Nancy may be sisters.
I also have a Ewing in my ancestry and I think she may be a third sister - she is one of my ancestors that I know the least about but dates and places would seem to be about right. I am very keen to try to prove (or disprove) this.
Any information you can provide would be great!
Thanks in advance
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Hi
My first evidence that Eliza was a Ewing came with her will. Eliza Henry died on 14th April 1901 and probate was granted to James Ewing, a carpenter of Randalstown. I have had a copy of this will from 1990s or earlier but now you can view it online. Immediately above Eliza's will is that of her sister. I forget which one but will find it shortly.
Eliza left a will because she and her sisters and James were all expecting a legacy from the will of John Carey.
"Should any portion fall to my Share arising from the deceased John Carey effects of Rarity Cottage, Toome Bridge ". John Carey's mother was a McKelvey as was Eliza and Nancy's mother Molly McKelvey.
In 1999 I visited Ireland and my cousin went looking for the Drummaul cemetery which he remembered visiting as a child. There were found both the Ewing and McAuley of Caddy tombstones. We already knew that William Henry had married his cousin Margaret McAuley from Caddy. John Ewing was a farmer in Coolsythe.
Erected by Robert Ewing of Belfast in memory of his parents:
John EWING died 29 Aug 1852 aged 64 b 1788
Mary EWING died 1 Sep 1845 aged 47 b 1798
Several Ancestry trees contain a John Ewing and Molly McKelvey of Randalstown. The children of this couple in the Stevenson Family Tree are listed in the following order with the dates in brackets. My preferred dates and additional information are given after:
Sarah (b c1840) married Robert HUGHES b 1832 m 1853 d1898
Jane (b c1841) married SHAW
Liz (b c1843) married Bryce HENRY b 1820 m c1840 d1901
Peggy (b c1844) married Richard FAULKNER b 1821 m <1845 d1906
Nancy (b c1846) married William John McAULEY b 1826 m 1847 d 1896
Mary (b c1848) married Robert AGNEW b1831 m1851 d 1919
Anna (b c1850) married CRAIG
Robert (b c1852) married b 1845 d 1920
William John (b 1853) married Sarah HILL b 1835 m 1854 d 1919
John (b 1855)
James (b 1857) married REA (m RESIDE) b 1838 m 1860 d1915
I really should rearrange this into the correct order and remove the Stevenson dates. Obviously several are quite wrong (by about 20 years) as none of the children were born after their mother died.
Actually I have revised my date of marriage for Eliza and Bryce Henry downwards also to c 1838 as their son Bryce Henry was born c1839.
Cheers
Linda
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I had opened the wrong document. This is my 2013 version. I have more information on each family except John who I am not sure ever existed or rather I think he may be William John Ewing. I am also not sure about Jane.
Eliza EWING b 1820 m c1840 married Bryce HENRY d 1901
Margaret (Peggy) b 1821 m <1845 married Richard FAULKNER d 1906
Jane EWING * married SHAW
Agnes (Nancy) b 1826 m 1847 married William John McAULEY d 1896
Mary EWING b 1831 m 1851 married Robert AGNEW d 1919
Sarah EWING b 1832 m 1853 married Robert HUGHES d 1898
William John EWING b 1835 m 1854 married Sarah HILL d 1919
James EWING b 1838 m 1860 married Margaret RESIDE d1915
Anna EWING b 1843 m1866 married William CRAIG d 1925
Robert EWING b 1845 m 1869 married Annie Maxwell Campbell d 1920
John* [date of birth, 1855, in Stevenson tree is not possible if his mother died in 1845]
NB: The will immediately preceding Eliza’s and on the same page, was that of Sarah Hughes of Caddy Randalstown. Sarah Hughes was also allowing for the possibility of inheriting a portion of the estate of John Carey and her will was also witnessed by James Ewing (though written in 1898). As both estates totaled £213.11s.7d, it is very likely that was the exact amount each inherited from John Carey’s estate.
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Hi Linda - that is brilliant!
Peggy/Margaret is my g2 grandmother, which I guess means my g3grandparents on this line are our common ancestors!
I have some detail on the Faulkner side of the family from the Faulkner family bible (now backed up by the offical sources) as I'm related to them on both maternal and paternal lines.
I'm guessing the wills are on PRONI Will Calendars? If so I will check that out.
I recognise a lot of the other names that the Ewing family married into as they are names that also crop up on various other branches of my family so I will have an interesting time cross referencing it all.
Do you use
https://www.townlands.ie
It is great for seeing exactly where townlands and parishes are.
I'm hoping to visit the Drummaul parish church graveyard soon so will keep a look out for the graves youi've mentioned. Let me know if you want me to look for anything else on your behalf.
Cheers
Linda
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Hi Linda
You are the second Faulkner family member who has contacted me. The other last year was through Ancestry and DNA testing as far as I remember. I think her ancestor was Robert Hogg Faulkner. From memory they went to Londonderry. I will look up the details when I get the chance (probably Wednesday our time NZ) and send you a personal message with my email address. I think you need to have 3 posts on rootschat before you can send personal messages and I am way past that.
Yes to PRONI Will calendars.
The will of Richard Faulkner a farmer of Coolsythe, who died in 1897, names his wife as Margaret and appoints Robert Ewing of Belfast and James Ewing of Randalstown as his executors.
Probate of the Will of Richard Faulkner late of Coolsythe County Antrim Farmer who died 17 June 1897 granted at Belfast to Robert Ewing of Castle Market Belfast Flour Merchant and James Ewing of Randalstown County Antrim Builder.
Richard names three married daughters and his sons William & Robert in addition to his wife Margaret. The married daughters named are Mrs Jane Hill, Mrs Winter and Mrs ?Rea/Kerr/Weir. Richard also names a granddaughter Maggie Eveline Nesbitt. Maggie was not yet 21 in 1897.
I think I may have come up with the answer to the ?Rea/Kerr/Weir question but again will have to check. My Ancestry files are usually more up to date than the written documents.
Eliza Ewing was my 3x gt grandmother. The Henry farm in Dunsilly was next door to the Gawn farm. My 2x gt grandparents were and Mary Jane Henry and William Gawn. I visited both farms in 1999.
No I have not used the townlands site. I use the askaboutIreland Griffiths valuations maps which have a slide control to match to a modern map, then I go to Google.
I have this footnote in my 2013 Ewing document.
Transcriptions of the burial register for the Drummaul cemetery can be found on Genealogygirl’s Weblog. These burial transcriptions are the property Alistair McCartney and cannot be published without his permission. ( © Transcribed by Alistair McCartney 2012, last updated 22 June 2012).
This is my own transcription from the Ewing tombstone. I wrote this down at the time as my camera malfunctioned and I had to open the back to rewind the film so was worried that the photos might not turn out.
By Robert Ewing Belfast
In memory of his Parents
John EWING who died 29th August 1852
Aged 64 years
Also Mary EWING who died 1st September 1845
Aged 47 years
Also [not transcribed ?loving of”]
William John EWING
His wife Sarah EWING
Who died 11 Jan 1903 aged 71 years
Their daughter Maggie Ewing
Who died 10 Nov 1903 aged 45 years
Their son John EWING who died in infancy
Also Sarah EWING who died 8 Dec 1909
Also Annie EWING who died 19 Jul 1915
Also Aggie EWING who died 28 Sep 1919
Also the above Wm John EWING
Who departed this life died 2 Mar 1919
Also Mary EWING
I will get back to you soon.
Cheers
Linda
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Thanks Linda - I hope by posting this reply it will enable personal messages.
We had the will calendar for Richard Faulkner before, I just didn't have the bigger picture for the Ewing family and the siblings even with the two names supplied on the probate document.
I know what you mean about photos - it must at least 20 years since I was at the Drummaul graveyard and I don't even think I have photos. I do have some scribbly hand written notes but only for a few lines of my family tree. Digital cameras make it a lot easier and sometimes you can read more on the image than in real life if you fiddle with the settings, which is good for the older memorials.
Many of my ancestors are buried there as well as in two of the nearby Presbyterian graveyards, so I have a busy visit ahead I think.
No worries about timescale - whenever you get a chance. I am so grateful as this information really helps.
Cheers
Linda
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Just to mention that I've just found the list of transcribed Drummaul graves on the genealogical site of the Braid Museum. This has the same copyright you mentioned above. There is also a list of other graveyards, presumably also in mid-Antrim.
http://www.thebraid.com/explore-your-roots-page.aspx?title=further-genealogical-resources
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Thank you for the Braid link. I have since discovered the Braid site but did not revisit the Drummaul . I now belong to the MidAntrim Genealogy Group who regularly use the Braid information.
I am copying some of the information posted on this thread across to a new one on the Antrim forum. But didn't think to copy the link before switching across to here. The new topic is Bryce Henry and Eliza Ewing.
Cheers
Linda
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Here is the link to the Antrim topic
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=801734.new#new
And I did have the name of Mary Faulkner's husband in my Ancestry tree. He was John Alexander Weir who died Randalstown on 10 Feb 1898.
Cheers
Linda
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Thanks Linda, I'll have a look on the other link.
Cheers
Linda
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Just an update on the Holmes family. Recent DNA matches show that Mary Henry b c 1813, daughter of Brice Henry of Shanrod Co Down, married James McIlroy of Benraw. Their daughter Mary Jane McIlroy b 1833 married Thomas Holmes the subject of this thread. Married 4 Nov 1853, by Rev John Henry, minister of Leitrim Presbyterian Church/Meeting House and uncle of the bride.
So there is a previous Henry connection.
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....Mary Henry b c 1813, daughter of Brice Henry of Shanrod Co Down, married James McIlroy of Benraw. Their daughter Mary Jane McIlroy b 1833 married Thomas Holmes the subject of this thread. Married 4 Nov 1853, by Rev John Henry, minister of Leitrim Presbyterian Church/Meeting House and uncle of the bride.
Here's the link to the 1853 marriage for others-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1853/09444/5421403.pdf
Links to the townlands mentioned by the OP and in the marriage-
Shanrod
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/garvaghy/balloolymore/shanrod/
Legananny (where the dolmen is!)
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/leitrim/legananny/
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01rd7/
Benraw
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/leitrim/benraw/
KG
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Thanks KG. That is an impressive bit of stone.
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I can add that though I now have Mary McIlroy's death (13 Dec 1886, Benraw), I will have to wait until irishgenealogy scan more death images, to pinpoint the death of her husband James McIlroy.
James McIlroy was the occupant of Property #50 (A& B) in Benraw in the Griffiths Valuations. James was crossed out and replaced with Mary in 1871. Property #50 comprised 22 acres and 3 acres.
There are two deaths recorded at Banbridge for James McElroy that could be James, one in 1869 aged 69 and another in 1870 aged 72.
Cheers
Linda
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I can add that though I now have Mary McIlroy's death (13 Dec 1886, Benraw), I will have to wait until irishgenealogy scan more death images, to pinpoint the death of her husband James McIlroy.
Looks more like the 30th December ???
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06227/4781974.pdf
IrishGenealogy have the outstanding death records already scanned.....just haven't got round to putting on the website to complete deaths 1864-1870. ::)
KG
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Once again Thank you KG. You are quite correct it does look like 30th December and I had misread it.
Good to know I might not have long to wait for the images. I will probably be still be working my way through the McIlroy family. I started with Agnes/Nancy McIlroy who seemed to be the oldest daughter (b c1837) and have not yet got to Eliza Ann McIlroy in whose family I have 3 DNA matches. Mary Jane now appears to be the oldest, born 1833. Luckily I already had the Holmes family in my Ancestry tree so only had to connect Mary Jane Holmes nee McElroy to her mother Mary Henry
I have not yet made a full written list for the family as I am still working through them.
I do have several of the marriages though. The earlier marriages appear to be as McElroy but Brice McIlroy who married 1876 shows as McIlroy. I had skipped to Brice McIlroy because of his name (shared with my 3x gt grandfather Bryce Henry) when I was first verifying the DNA matches.
Brice McIlroy married 21 Nov 1876 to Anna Rea.
Eliza Ann McElroy married 27 Apr 1860 to Archibald Kirkpatrick
Nancy McElroy married 23 Jan 1855 to William Hart
Amelia McElroy married 21 jan 1864 to Robert Kelly.
I have Amelia only because she was a witness to Eliza's marriage but was not in the Ancestry tree that I used to find the McIlroy family members that I am now working through. So I looked for a marriage to confirm her relationship.
Mary Jane McIlroy and husband Thomas Holmes were also not in that Ancestry tree but the marriage was discovered a couple of days ago by a family member in the Hart family line, and sent to me for my opinion. However as you can see from the date of my first post, I already had that family in my sights long before the discovery of McElroy/McIlroy DNA matches this year.
Cheers
Linda
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Amelia McElroy married 21 jan 1864 to Robert Kelly.
Here's the link to the marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11596/8267761.pdf
Note that one of the witnesses was Rebecca McIlroy (sister?)
On 19th March 1878 Rebecca McIlroy marries David McCracken. She's living in Benraw and her father is James, a farmer.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11086/8057464.pdf
Another one to note, lmgnz :)
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Hi KG
Yes Rebecca is another sister and one I have not reached as yet. And one that now might just be the answer to a McCracken FTDNA match who I think has family in the same area. So it is now very tempting to skip over to Rebecca.
I have finally made a list of the McIlroy family, though I am still to complete the Hart line and will have to return to the Holmes family to delve deeper, now that I know where they belong.
This going to take some time, and maybe Irishgenealogy will have posted the rest of the scanned death images before I have finished. ;)
Family of James McIlroy and Mary Henry
Mary Jane McIlroy b 3 Nov 1833 m 1853 (at Leitrim) to Thomas Holmes d 1890
Nancy McIlroy b c1837 m 1855 (at Leitrim) to William Hart. d 1904
Eliza Ann McIlroy b c1840 m 1860 (at Leitrim) to Archibald Kirkpatrick. d 1920
William Henry McIlroy b 7 Oct 1841 d 1931
James McIlroy b 8 Jun 1843
Margaret McIlroy b 7 Dec 1844
John McIlroy b 7 Dec 1844
Isaac McIlroy b 10 Feb 1848
Rebecca McIlroy b 10 Feb 1848
John McIlroy b 29 Apr 1850
Brice McIlroy b 22 Jul 1853
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OOps
I made the McIlroy list from a FamilySearch tree yesterday and remembered to add Brice McIlroy who was missing from that tree, but for got to add Amelia, whose DOB I do not know. But as she and Robert were witnesses in 1860 but married 1864, I thought maybe they had to wait until she was of age to marry.
I suspect Amelia and Robert may have emigrated as his farm at Benraw became vacant in 1871. No children births listed after 1867 but no deaths in Ireland either before 1921, as far as I can see. Though I will check again when I reach Amelia.
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Robert Kelly had moved from Benraw to Moybrick Dromara, which is where he died in 1876. Robert names his wife Amelia and two daughters, Mary and Eliza, in his will.
Amelia Kelly of Dromara died 1897 and also left a will. By this time both daughters were marrie, but Mary (Stewart) had died in 1891.
So the family did not emigrate.
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New question: William Henry McIlroy b 1841 of Benraw, brother in law of Thomas Holmes, died 1931
(McIlroy William Henry of Benraw Leitrim Banbridge county Down farmer died 19 October 1931 Probate Belfast 26 May to John Hart and John Bradford farmers. Effects £2422 16s. 2d).
William Henry McIlroy had 3 sons , Isaac who died 1908 and James who died 1928 but I am wondering if the other son, William John McIlroy born 10 Dec 1886 could have been the William John McIlroy b Co Down of the Royal Irish Rifles who died at Galiipoli on 17 Aug 1915.
Is there a site i can check that?
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William Henry McIlroy had 3 sons , Isaac who died 1908 and James who died 1928 but I am wondering if the other son, William John McIlroy born 10 Dec 1886 could have been the William John McIlroy b Co Down of the Royal Irish Rifles who died at Galiipoli on 17 Aug 1915.
Is there a site i can check that?
Listed as William James "Son of Mr. J. and Mrs. S. McIlroy, of Bridge St., Downpatrick, Co. Down."
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/691017/william-james-mcilroy/
http://rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/Mc/McIlroy.htm
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Thank you. the regiment number and date of death are the same as the Ancestry record for William John McIlroy. So that eliminates him.
Ireland, World War I Casualties, 1914-1922 for William John McIlroy
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the regiment number and date of death are the same as the Ancestry record for William John McIlroy. So that eliminates him.
Ireland, World War I Casualties, 1914-1922 for William John McIlroy
From FindMyPast - Ireland's Memorial Records 1914 - 1918
(top left of page)
Reg. No. 11276
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=IRE%2FENEC011%2F00002014&parentid=IRE%2FENEC011%2F00002014%2F001