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Title: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: kennethchambers87 on Tuesday 09 May 17 09:20 BST (UK)
Looking for the parents of George Smart born around 1790 Gloucester.He married Athalia Arndell in 1817.No trace of either on the 1841 but Athalia is a widow on the 1851 and 1861 census.I am trying to find his birth and death and parents names.Can anyone help please? Thanks Diane
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 09 May 17 09:39 BST (UK)
The marriage is 20th November 1817 in Cheltenham.

Then 1823 a child, George, baptised at St Mary de lode, Gloucester
George senior is a servant
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 09 May 17 09:54 BST (UK)
I have just looked at 1851. I am not convinced that it says widow for Athalia. I think it says married so may be George is still alive and working?
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 09 May 17 10:07 BST (UK)
I have just looked at 1851. I am not convinced that it says widow for Athalia. I think it says married so may be George is still alive and working?

Definitely says married and living with son George but husband George is not there.
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 09 May 17 10:16 BST (UK)
There is a death for George Smart 1858 Cheltenham. 6a  264.
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 09 May 17 10:18 BST (UK)
On 1841 in the household of Joseph Longmore there is a servant George Smart age 45.
Mythe House Tewkesbury.
Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 26; Page: 3

Not with this family in 1851
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 09 May 17 10:37 BST (UK)
Possibly 1851??
I have written it as I found it online!!!

Elizh Leysall  69 head (actually Seysall)
Mary Beare 16 pauper
Sarah Webb 16 pauper
Geol Lenart 52 lodger  <-- Actually Geoe Smart, lodger. occupation groom Born Waddon, Gloucester
Elizh Farley 24 lodger
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 09 May 17 10:42 BST (UK)
On GRO the 1858 death in Cheltenham has age 35

There is one in Gloucester in 1852, age 61
6a 181
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: kennethchambers87 on Wednesday 10 May 17 10:46 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for this info.Will try to check all these replies and see if they fit. On his sons  Edwin/Edward marriage in 1848 it says George is a coachman,I also think his other son George married a Mary Jordan  in 1851 Cheltenham .
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: kennethchambers87 on Wednesday 10 May 17 15:54 BST (UK)
Think the death in 1852 age 61 could be correct,Now I need to look for Athaliah on the 1841 census with sons Edward 1818,Charles 1820 ,and George 1822.Thanks for help ..Its beginning to stump me .Been all through Georges born or Athaliahs  on 1841,something I'm missing somewhere.Pity all the Church marriages for Glos aren't online yet.
Title: Re: George Smart married to Athalia Arndell
Post by: kennethchambers87 on Wednesday 10 May 17 15:58 BST (UK)
Possibly 1851??
I have written it as I found it online!!!

Elizh Leysall  69 head (actually Seysall)
Mary Beare 16 pauper
Sarah Webb 16 pauper
Geol Lenart 52 lodger  <-- Actually Geoe Smart, lodger. occupation groom Born Waddon, Gloucester
Elizh Farley 24 lodger
Possibly 1851??
I have written it as I found it online!!!

Elizh Leysall  69 head (actually Seysall)
Mary Beare 16 pauper
Sarah Webb 16 pauper
Geol Lenart 52 lodger  <-- Actually Geoe Smart, lodger. occupation groom Born Waddon, Gloucester
Elizh Farley 24 lodger



Think this is my George  died Kingsholm 1852 buried St Mary de Lode as the census is from Kingsholme