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Looking for a friend's mother (Noreen mentioned above). Her son lives in US and would like to know his mother's story. She would have been born maybe 90 years ago. All he heard was she had been an orphan and raised by some English sisters/ladies. (?)
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Found on this site
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search
Noreen Catherine Hider d 2004 b 23 October 1916
Stanley John Hider d 1960 aged 53y
Haven't looked for marriage yet.
Carol
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Hi connector,
Welcome to Rootschat. :)
Are you after information before Noreen married?
Cheers
KHP
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Hi there and welcome.
You may have this on her husband and his family..
Stanley John Hider b 12 Nov 1907 Qld to William Stanley Hider and Elizabeth Jessie Fretwell – They married 1902 Qld
Also a sister b 1903 Qld - Catherine Charlotte Victoria Hider – married 1928 to Benjamin Clarence Webster in NZ.
Mum - Elizabeth Jessie Hider died 1956 in NZ age 78 years.
Father - William Stanley Hider died 1945 NZ age 74 years
Paperspast has for father’s death On September 8 1945 at his residence 19 Allen street Frankton William Stanley Hider dearly loved husband of Jessie Elizabeth Hider and father of John and Kate, aged 71 years – Forever with the Lord, service at Scrimshaw’s Chapel tomorrow (Tuesday) at 2pm funeral then leaving for the Hamilton Cemetery.
Mum & Dad are on NZ 1928 ER for Hamilton Waikato at Allen St Frankton. John shows with them on 1935 Er at same address, Jessie, John and father William on 1938 Er at same address as well as Noreen, so looks like marriage was after 1935 in NZ.
Mum and Stanley swapped their names around - Jessie & John, he shows on 1946 Er with Noreen, so marriage between 1935 - 1938
regards Val
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so looks like marriage was after 1938 in NZ.
regards Val
Marriage disc shows marriage 1937 with the groom showing as John Stanley.
only John and father William on 1938 Er at same address
They show on the Hamilton General Roll.
But on the Hamilton Supplementary Roll for 1938 Hamilton, Noreen Catherine Hider and Jessie Elizabeth Hider are at 19 Allen Street.
Cheers
KHP
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It’s interesting to find that her birth wasn’t registered until 1978 on NZ BMD..
as Noreen Catherine BLACK...
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Hello,
I have the death notice for Noreen. If you can post two more messages, (just a smiley :) for each will be fine) I can then send this and another Hider notice to you by personal message.
Minniehaha.
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Burial details......
Noreen Catherine HIDER 87 Female 18/06/2004
Born: Buried: 24/06/2004
Type: Burial Funeral Director: James R Hill Funeral Directors
Last Address: 85 Norton Rd Hamilton Location: Hamilton Park Cemetery
CHRRY-12-64
Stanley John HIDER 53 Male 23/10/1960
Born: Buried: 25/10/1960
Type: Burial Funeral Director: Scrimshaw, E. G.
Last Address: Unspecified Location: Hamilton Park Cemetery
CHRRY-12-65
Minniehaha.
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Hi connector,
Welcome to Rootschat. :)
Are you after information before Noreen married?
Cheers
KHP
... that's how I read the request also. ;D (Looking to find who raised Noreen ? )
~ Lu
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Hello.
James R Hill bought out the Hamilton undertaker E G Scrimshaw records, and are normally prepared to help family researchers.
It could be worth your while approaching them for any additional records they hold, like address for service.
Alan.
EDIT. For once apologies for brevity.
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Yes!! I'm so grateful for everything I can learn for my friend! He especially wants to learn his mother's origins. And was she an orphan? Thank you! :)
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Thank you so very much! I'll be glad for anything about Noreen's birth, childhood, etc to share with her son here! <3
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Hello Connector,
Thank you for your personal message. :)
Death notices sent.........
Minniehaha.
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Might it be worth obtaining a printout for the marriage of Noreen & Stanley John Hider?
Although her birth was registered in 1978 (as mentioned in a previous reply) with parentage not shown----
Registration Number
Family Name
Given Name(s)
Mother's Given
Name(s)
Father's Given
Name(s)
1978/125723 Black Noreen Catherine NR NR
---Perhaps more information was provided at her marriage?
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[Sorry about all the 'bolding', that wasn't the plan.]
Just a thought.
Minniehaha.
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PM sent with Facebook contact details for a daughter-in-law of Noreen Hider.
Minniehaha.
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It’s interesting to find that her birth wasn’t registered until 1978 on NZ BMD..
as Noreen Catherine BLACK...
Hello.
Two points of interest for me. when I saw that was:-
#1 Was the unique event that prompted the birth registration, trying to apply for a pension, making her older than assumed in post one, but proved wrong when the birth date on the registration was found.
#2 Did a serviceman by name of BLACK, with Waikato origins, die on active service in the later part of 1916.
Unfortunately Cenotaph has too many BLACK listings to search through for my available time. Papers Past casualty lists did not provide me with a quick answer, and I was unsuccessful in finding an on line site with the NZ Expeditionary Force published rolls, which one could scroll through the alphabetical listings, looking at enlistment and NOK addresses.
Just a thought.
- Alan.
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Hello again.
For those off shore I should have possibly earlier asked have you seen sites like in the link below that give an over view of adoption in NZ.
http://adoptionnz.com/?page_id=118
- Alan.
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Thank you!
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It’s interesting to find that her birth wasn’t registered until 1978 on NZ BMD..
as Noreen Catherine BLACK...
Mrs Hider needed a birth certificate to obtain a NZ passport to visit family members overseas.