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Title: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: RTD312 on Tuesday 18 April 17 16:55 BST (UK)
I am trying to find information relating to George Herd who moved to Sunderland County Durham from Scotland he was born1844 to Thomas and Mary and died 1877. Married to Eleanor(Elleanor) neč Chisholm, son Alexander and daughter Margaret Chisholm Herd( my Great Grandmother)

I can't find marriage or death certificates for George or Eleanor(the latter seems to have several first name spellings and several last names (Hood, Herd, Wood)
I can find the 1881 and 1891 census for Eleanor and the children after which I can't find her.
 Does anyone know if she remarried or did she also die young.

Grateful for any help :)
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:02 BST (UK)
Hi

Welcome to rootschat


I can find the 1881 and 1891 census for Eleanor and the children after which I can't find her.
 

Where do you have Eleanor & the children in 1881/91

Rosie



Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:06 BST (UK)
Hi,

A warm welcome from me also  :)

George Herd age 33 -
q3 1877, Sunderland
Vol 10a Page 323

JJ
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:07 BST (UK)
A marriage that would be worth looking at -

Eleanor Herd
q2 1898, Sunderland
Vol 10a Page 859

JJ
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:10 BST (UK)
1901 -

Robert Copeland   64 b. Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Ellanor  ??? Copeland   wife 51 b. Brampton, Northumberland
Rebecca Copeland   dau 37 b. Canada

RG13 Piece 4721 Folio 88 Page 8, Monkwearmouth

JJ
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:13 BST (UK)
Possible death (age slightly out compared to census) -

Eleanor Copeland
q1 1912, Sunderland
Vol 10a Page 712

JJ
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:16 BST (UK)
There is a death of a George Herd age 33 -
q3 1877, Sunderland
Vol 10a Page 323

RDT already knows the date of death  :-\
from another thread
She was the daughter of George Herd (the policeman who moved to England) I wondered if anyone had any more information regarding George who died 1st July 1877
I found census for 1881 and 1891 for his wife and children in Sunderland, County Durham but have no idea what happened.

There is an 1877 burial in Sunderland on Durham Records Online for a George Herd aged 33, abode 14 Devonshire Street.
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:22 BST (UK)
Linking the two posts -

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709667.msg6222649#msg6222649
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:25 BST (UK)
An article in the Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette of 5 July 1877 states that George was an 'experienced and respected officer of the Sunderland Borough Police force'. It states that he died of consumption on 1st July 1877 and that he was buried at Fulwell Cemetery,  attended by 'the police band and a large force of officers under Supt. Nicholson'.
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: RTD312 on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:28 BST (UK)
Hello all and thanks for the warm welcome

Hi Rosie99 I have George in Monkwearmoutb in Sunderland at time of death
1891 Eleanor is Charles street, Monkwearmouth shore

Thanks JJen I was struggling with the searches on Ancestry and am not entirely sure of the references you've given being new to this. Where do I find these - just starting out on this side of the family. The rest are so far in NE Scotland and the Highlands so got most of those details on Scotlandspeople site

The date for George ties in with his death and the dates for Eleanor might be a second marriage?
She had so many name variations linked to the search

JenB - that is him. He was a police officer and I wondered what happened to him

Linda
Thanks again for all your responses
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:32 BST (UK)
1901 -

Robert Copeland   64 b. Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Ellanor  ??? Copeland   wife 51 b. Brampton, Northumberland
Rebecca Copeland   dau 37 b. Canada

RG13 Piece 4721 Folio 88 Page 8, Monkwearmouth


That is promising because Eleanor's birthplace in 1891 is given as Branton, Northumberland
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: RTD312 on Tuesday 18 April 17 17:43 BST (UK)
Hi JenB
This fits as her birthplace on the 1881 census was Northumberland
Her parents were on the 1881 census although Eleanor was recorded as Head of the family
May I ask where the codes you refer to are located?
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: ev on Tuesday 18 April 17 19:16 BST (UK)
Hi ,

FreeBMD has marriage George Herd / Elleanor Chisholm , 1st Quarter 1876 Sunderland  :-\



ev
Title: Re: George Herd Sunderland
Post by: RTD312 on Tuesday 18 April 17 20:10 BST (UK)
Hi Ev
Thanks for this - it's all coming together
I am much appreciative of the support received today
L