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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: jnoone on Monday 17 April 17 18:22 BST (UK)

Title: photo
Post by: jnoone on Monday 17 April 17 18:22 BST (UK)
Hi
I
 trying to identify a person in a photograph which I believe was taken
in Liverpool.The photo was taken at some kind of award ceremony and I am
 trying to identify the man receiving the award.
The photo was taken by H.A. Smith photographer 68 South Castle Street
Liverpool.
Could someone please try to date this photo.Would anyone have any idea
what the ceremony was and could anyone maybe identify anyone in the
photo.
Title: Re: photo
Post by: jnoone on Monday 17 April 17 18:35 BST (UK)
Hi
Title: Re: photo
Post by: Scribble1952 on Monday 17 April 17 18:47 BST (UK)
Are your famliy connected to a Church ,just a guess an
award for a Charity . ;D
All the Best😊
Title: Re: photo
Post by: JenB on Monday 17 April 17 18:54 BST (UK)
I think the clergyman right foreground is Cardinal Richard Downey, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Liverpool 1928 - 1953. See the photo bottom right here http://www.litherland-digital.co.uk/album_9/pages/star_of_sea_warmem.html
Title: Re: photo
Post by: Blue70 on Monday 17 April 17 20:19 BST (UK)
Yes I agree I thought straight away it was an RC photo and I recognised one of the men and the name "Downey" came to mind.


Blue
Title: Re: photo
Post by: jnoone on Monday 17 April 17 20:33 BST (UK)
Hi
The member of family who I believe is in the photo was I think not connected to the church or a member of a religious order. If I am right he was born in Ireland and lived in Dublin most of his life
Title: Re: photo
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 April 17 09:16 BST (UK)
This doesn't help identify your mystery man. But I think the photo could be pre-1932.

As you can see from the photograph Cardinal Downey was portly to say the least. However there are newspaper reports that he put himself on a severe diet in 1932 and lost a good 6 stones of what he described as his 'too solid flesh'.

What is the name of the person you believe the mystery man to be?
Title: Re: photo
Post by: Blue70 on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:33 BST (UK)
The photographer was at 68 South Castle Street in Kelly's Directory 1938:-

68 Smith Harold Aubrey photographer


Blue
Title: Re: photo
Post by: Blue70 on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:58 BST (UK)
Looking at the hands of the two men could Downey be the recipient here?


Blue
Title: Re: photo
Post by: jnoone on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:59 BST (UK)
Hi
This is a photo my grandmother had.Her name was Margaret Brogan.Her husband was Patrick and he had two brothers.I have photos  of them three of them and the man in the photo is not one of  them but yet he bears a strong resemblance to them and my father so I am really not sure who he is.
Title: Re: photo
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 18 April 17 11:53 BST (UK)
Quote from: Blue70 on Tuesday 18 April 17 10:58 BST (UK)
Looking at the hands of the two men could Downey be the recipient here?

Yes, I am having difficulty deciding who is giving and who is receiving  ::) The item being 'awarded' appears to be a key.
Title: Re: photo
Post by: Blue70 on Tuesday 18 April 17 13:24 BST (UK)
Downey received the Freedom of Limerick in 1932 could this be a possible link?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freedom_of_the_City_recipients


Blue