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Hi :)
Walter Thomas Smith b. 1838 in High Wycombe was the son of Sarah Smith b. 1803 High Wycombe. On the censuses 1851-71 she was widowed but I can't find the Father of Walter Thomas Smith ,maybe a Illegitimate birth? But his mother Sarah Smith , was a widow so It cannot be her maiden name , isn't it? I've tried to find a birth for Walter Thomas and for his mother Sarah Smith , But in vain :( I hope someone can help
Regards
Jane
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Is this the family in 1851 :-\
Piece 1570 f160 p7 - James Street, Lambeth
Sarah Smith 48 - widow
Sarah Elizabeth Smith 20
Walter Thomas Smith 12
George Henry Smith 10
all born High Wycombe
Possible birth reg for George Henry
SMITH, GEORGE HENRY - no mothers maiden name listed
1841 March Quarter in THE WYCOMBE UNION Volume 06 Page 422
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Yes this is the right family :)
Jane
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Could this be the marriage of his 'sister' Sarah Elizabeth
Sarah Elizabeth Smith -father William Smith
Richard Fisher Harris (widowed) - father John Harper Harris
Marriage Date: 29 Jun 1862
Kennington, Surrey, England
Here they are in 1901
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9H5-93R
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There is marriage for a Walter thomas Smith in Kennington 7 Mar 1864 to Emma Whitsey. He also lists his father as William
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I see that the family are already in Lambeth in 1841 -
Sarah 36
William 17 - J (probably stands for Journeyman) Chair Caner
Sarah 11
Walter 3
George 4 months
not born in County (Surrey)
HO107/1061 Bk 5 f39 p27
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Is there a Marriage for a William Smith and Sarah in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire?
Jane
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On the 1871 census, Walter lists his birthplace as Pen (sic). Penn is a village close to High Wycombe. Maybe the whole family were from Penn rather than High Wycombe.
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I wonder, christian names are the wrong way round though - names are too common to confirm ::)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J75Z-CL9
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I wonder if this is connected
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTRC-3D8
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That looks very interesting Lizzie :)
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I agree and came to the same conclusion. :)
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I think that Sarah Smith was never married and stated that she is a widow,
because there is no trace of the father William. Or Walter Thomas and his Sister Elizabeth Have figured out who their father was
Jane
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Penn parish registers have:-
baptised 13 May 1827 William Moorcraft illegitimate son of William Moorcraft, butcher of Beaconsfield, and Sarah Smith of Penn.
baptised 21 Nov 1830 Elizabeth Sarah daughter of Sarah Smith, single woman of Tylers Green.
I can't find any pertinent marriages or burials in Penn - neither can I find a baptism for Walter who states on the censuses that he was born in Penn. As the family had moved away from Penn by 1841 perhaps he was baptised elsewhere?
Jill
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There is a similar post a bit further down (26th Feb) titled 1841 census High Wycombe/Penn - Smith.
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There is a similar post a bit further down (26th Feb) titled 1841 census High Wycombe/Penn - Smith.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=123413.
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There is a similar post a bit further down (26th Feb) titled 1841 census High Wycombe/Penn - Smith.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=123413.
Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Why duplicate? That's half an hour I won't get back, looking for something you already knew!! Thanks a lot.