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Harry Arthur Anderson born in Sussex 1877 died in Denmark WA1959 married Elizabeth Prudence Simms born in Lucknow ,India 1885 ,in Marylebone in 1905.They had 3 children , 2 were,deceased before arriving in Western Australia in early 1950's. Daughter Dorothy Prudence born 1909 , died in Albany WA in 1991,arrived with them. They also had an adopted son, Alec Emile Anderson (birth name Cohen ) born about 1906 , not sure where, died in Albany WA in 1983.Would like some info as to when Elizabeth died. & the back ground to Alec, please
Many Thanks
AG
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Hi AG i found the info on Elizabeth Prudence Anderson on "bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au"
She died in 1968 in the shire of Plantagenet, age 83
Regards
Shirley
Perth WA
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that's what I found,but at 83 , she wouldn't have been born in 1935 as indicated. The 3 should be an 8
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Is this the family?
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, shows them in 1st class on the Dymas, out of Glasgow, 27 September, 1950. Ticketed to Melbourne; Country of intended residence: Australia
Mr Harry A ANDERSON, 73, retired dentist
Mrs Elizabeth P ANDERSON, 66
Miss Dorothy P ANDERSON, 41, student
Last address for all of them at Kimble, nr Aylesbury, Bucks
Judith
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that's what I found,but at 83 , she wouldn't have been born in 1935 as indicated. The 3 should be an 8
What??? ;D
She was born in 1885 and died in 1968 aged 83.
Debra :)
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May I ask the source of your information?
Buried at Denmark Cemetery. I cannot find a death reg for a Dorothy Gertrude ANDERSON in WA in 1968 only an Elizabeth Prudence. The first two burials are at the same location.
ANDERSON Harry Arthur 82 years, Denmark Died 9 Jun 1959 Interred 11 Jun 1859 Location General Burial Ground Site 279
ANDERSON Dorothy Gertrude 82 years, Denmark Died 7 Jan 1968 Interred 9 Jan 1968
Location General Burial Ground Site 279
ANDERSON Dorothy 82 years, Albany Died 20 Jun 1991 Interred 26 Jun 1998
General Burial Ground Site 667
Headstones/plaques at the Denmark Cemetery, WA
ANDERSON , Dorothy 20 Jun 1991 aged 82
ANDERSON , Dorothy Gertrude. 7 Jan 1968 aged 82 .
ANDERSON , Harry Arthur 9 Jun 1959 aged 82
Interred at Albany - Allambie Park Cemetery
ANDERSON Alec Emile 77 years 18 Jan 1983 Location CW561
No Alec with the family in 1911.
Australian Electoral Rolls
1954, 1958 Forrest/Albany
ANDERSON Dorothy Prudence Harewood Road, Denmark Student
ANDERSON Elizabeth Prudence Harewood Road, Denmark HD
ANDERSON Harry Arthur Harewood Road, Denmark No occupation listed.
1963
ANDERSON Dorothy Prudence Harewood Road, Denmark Student
ANDERSON Elizabeth Prudence Harewood Road, Denmark HD
1968
ANDERSON Dorothy Prudence Harewood Road, Denmark Student
1972, 1977, 1980
ANDERSON Alec Emile 36 Marine Parade, Albany No occupation listed
ANDERSON Dorothy Prudence 36 Marine Parade Albany HD
Cando
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Western Australia Death Index Transcription, shows Elizabeth Prudence died 1968, Plantagenet . The birth year is wrong , shows 1935. in fact she was born 1885 in Lucknow in India. Father mentioned is correct.Who Dorothy Gertrude is I have no idea. Waiting on Denmark Shire to respond to my email. As you can see Elizabeth shows on Electoral Roll , which is correct.
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I have no idea what 'transcriptions' you are looking at. Yes she was born in Lucknow, India and was known as Prudence on the census in England.
She didn't die at Plantagent WA. Her death was registered in the Registration District of Plantagent.
From
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
And very clear. Why do you use online indexes from subscription only websites? They have many errors and omissions ::)
Death - and no mention of the year of her birth!!
ANDERSON Elizabeth Prudence 83 years
Father Lewis Mother Unknown
District Plantagenet Reg#10 1968
I have posted the details which are on the HEADSTONES of the burials at Denmark.
I doubt the Shire offices will be able to tell you more as their information would have been transcribed from the Cemetery Burial Register and possibly the Burial Orders Register. I would suggest there has been some confusion with the names by the funeral director.
Cando
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The family constantly reversed their given names eg
Baptism
ANDERSON Arthur Roy
5 Apr 1906 St Mark, Marylebone Road Parish Westminster
Father Arthur Harry and mother Prudence Elizabeth
I would appreciated an answer to the question....where are you sourcing your information?
I notice you've been logged in since my last post.
Just trying to help you.
Cando
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I have got some of my information from "paid subscriptions" which have proved correct.
I contacted the Demark Shire & Albany Library for help.
It appears the person who lodged the burial application made the mistake. Funeral directors records show the name Elizabeth Prudence. The plaque is going to be changed for future reference.
It just goes to show not is all that it seems
AG
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Hi there,
May I mention that Ancestry has compiled its own index from publically available sources, and in doing so may well have introduced flaws in their own transcribed database.
It seems that their transcribing team's database "Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985" includes the following information about Elizabeth Prudence ANDERSON's death...
Birth abt 1934
Age 33
Death Place Western Australia
Father Lewis M
Registered in 1967
Registration Place Plantagenet, Western Australia
Reg No. 10/68
I am not sure why any commercial website would seek publically available sources and combine various death indexes, to then label them as though they are one Australia Death Index when in fact each jurisdiction within Australia has legislative power over their own BDM registers. RChat's Australia Resources Board includes live link to the following thread and a live link to a NAA fact sheet.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574209.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
JM
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I have got some of my information from "paid subscriptions" which have proved correct.
I contacted the Demark Shire & Albany Library for help.
It appears the person who lodged the burial application made the mistake. Funeral directors records show the name Elizabeth Prudence. The plaque is going to be changed for future reference.
It just goes to show not is all that it seems
AG
Your paid subscription websites did not have correct information.
Western Australia Death Index Transcription, shows Elizabeth Prudence died 1968, Plantagenet . The birth year is wrong , shows 1935. in fact she was born 1885 in Lucknow in India. AG
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
And very clear. Why do you use online indexes from subscription only websites? They have many errors and omissions ::)
Death - and no mention of the year of her birth!!
ANDERSON Elizabeth Prudence 83 years
Father Lewis Mother Unknown
District Plantagenet Reg#10 1968
Cando
Reply#7
I would suggest there has been some confusion with the names by the funeral director.
Cando
In my experience it has been the funeral directors who made arrangements for burials including all the contact with the cemetery trustees.
I wonder who is going to pay for the cost of the new headstone/plaque ::)
Cando
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I didn't know there was already another thread with loads of info about this family,but today a couple of us have been working on the Alec Emile Koeune side of things.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=769656.new#new
Carol