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Title: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Adrian Stevenson on Sunday 02 April 17 11:17 BST (UK)
Hi All, I have never been able to find a marriage for my Great, Great Grandfather. His name was Richard Thompson born in 1835 in Sneinton. He was a Cordwainer, as was his Father Thomas Thompson born 1811.

His wife, to whom I have no surname, was named Mary Elizabeth.

I have him/them on the census for 41, 51, 61, 71, 81.

The children, all born in Sneinton, were:

Elizabeth Mary Thompson 1863–1892

William Thomas Holmes Thompson 1867–1949 (My Great Granddad)

John Richard Thompson 1870–

Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.

Cheers, Ade.
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 02 April 17 11:44 BST (UK)
You could look up the births for children on the GRO index to find their mothers maiden name but that wouldn't prove the parents were married - they may never have married officially :)
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 02 April 17 11:50 BST (UK)
If this is the correct birth William Thomas Thompson March 1867 birth Nottingham has mothers maiden name of Smith.

We can cross check that with the other children.

John Richard Holmes Thompson June 1870 birth Nottingham also has mothers name Smith.
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: groom on Sunday 02 April 17 11:50 BST (UK)
Looks like their mother's name was SMITH!

William Thomas Thompson    Volume 07B  Page 242  M Quarter 1867
John Richard Holmes Thompson  Volume 07B  Page 274  J Quarter 1870
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: groom on Sunday 02 April 17 11:52 BST (UK)
Might be worth trying to follow up the Holmes connection as both children had that as part of their name.

I can't see a birth for Elizabeth Mary
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Adrian Stevenson on Sunday 02 April 17 11:52 BST (UK)
Great! Thank you very much!

Cheers, Ade.
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 02 April 17 11:53 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Mary Holmes Thompson has mother name Holmes

Sep 1862 Nottingham
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: groom on Sunday 02 April 17 11:57 BST (UK)
Interesting - look at the names here, coincidence?

Marriages Mar 1864 

Holmes    Hannah       
Thompson    Richard Holmes       
Warwick    6d   587
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: larkspur on Sunday 02 April 17 12:14 BST (UK)
Baptisms Nottingham St Mary
Coincidence???
Parents Richard and Mary Elizabeth Thompson Abode Woolpack Lane father a horse dealer
7 Nov 1875 William Thomas
7 Nov 1875 John Richard
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: larkspur on Sunday 02 April 17 12:24 BST (UK)
RG11/3362/ 90 p 1

How about this one, the horse dealer living with a Smith family. Am I on the totally wrong track???
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Adrian Stevenson on Sunday 02 April 17 12:26 BST (UK)
You guys are great!
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: suzard on Sunday 02 April 17 12:56 BST (UK)
If I am following the correct Richard -it is confusing!!!

1861 Richard Thompson age 26 described as son (of Thomas & Mary) MARRIED cordwainer b Gedling Nottingham (his baptism was Gedling)
no wife present -nor can I find her elsewhere

1871 Richard Thompson Head M 35 Licenced Horse dealer & Private in Yeoman b Sneinton
wife Mary Elizabeth 34 daughter Elizabeth M 8  william Thos 4 and John Richard 10mths
all b Nottingham

1881
Richard Thompson Boarder M 46 Horse Dealer with the Smith family
but elsewhwere Mary Elizabeth is described as a widow and has her children aunt Louisa Gray 46 and cousin Annie Gray with her

Suz
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Adrian Stevenson on Sunday 02 April 17 13:08 BST (UK)
Hi Suz, this is what I have too. So you are on the right track.

Thanks.

Cheers, Ade.
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: groom on Sunday 02 April 17 13:10 BST (UK)
Is the Thompson/Holmes marriage a red herring?
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: suzard on Sunday 02 April 17 13:13 BST (UK)
I'm trying to see where Aunt Louisa Gray and cousin Annie Gray fit in but not having much luck there either

Suz
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 02 April 17 13:47 BST (UK)
Quote from: suzard on Sunday 02 April 17 13:13 BST (UK)

I'm trying to see where Aunt Louisa Gray and cousin Annie Gray fit in but not having much luck there either


Surname GAY Could this be Louisa 36 married & Annie L 6 born Nottinghamshire

1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBF3-FPR
1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7DH-446 - Louisa middle name Ann
1854 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D3J-15F
         marriage Jarvis Gay/Louisa Ann SMITH

could Louisa Ann be Mary Elizth's sister?

1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGX3-J5V
        Louisa A 16 (1835) & Mary E SMITH 14 (1837) with parents & siblings
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: suzard on Sunday 02 April 17 14:00 BST (UK)
that's a good find
Suz
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 02 April 17 14:07 BST (UK)
Possible baptisms

Lousa ? Ann Smith
15 Jun 1834   Anglican   St Mary   Nottingham
parents William Smith   Elizabeth
res. Sherwood Lane   Nottinghamshire   England
source Nottinghamshire Baptisms

Mary Elizabeth Smith
06 Nov 1836   Anglican   St Mary   Nottingham
William   Smith   Elizabeth
res. Gedling St   Nottinghamshire
sourse   Nottinghamshire Baptisms

1841 census Gedling Street, St Mary, Nottingham
William Smith 1811 Carpenter
Elizth 1814
Louisa 1834
Mary 1836
Jane 1839
All born Nottingham

Louisa Ann Smith to Jarvis Gay
19 Nov 1854   Sneinton   St Stephen   Anglican
source Nottinghamshire Marriages, 1528-1929



Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Adrian Stevenson on Sunday 02 April 17 14:44 BST (UK)
Thanks once again!
Title: Re: Help with a marriage: Richard Thompson of Sneinton
Post by: Adrian Stevenson on Sunday 09 April 17 10:05 BST (UK)
Just wanted to say thanks again for all the help.

I have now processed all the info into my tree and as a result have expanded upon it.

Cheers, Ade.