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Title: 1850s prison records
Post by: Gali on Sunday 02 April 17 10:18 BST (UK)
I have an ancestor indicted at Westminster in 1852, sentenced to 12 months for housebreaking. 

I can see this information on the 'England and Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791 - 1892' dataset on A*try. 

Thereafter I can find nothing further about him.

Does anyone have any idea as to which prison he may have been sent to, or any pointers for how to find this information? 

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: rutht22000 on Sunday 02 April 17 11:07 BST (UK)
Hi Gali

Could you let us know what his name was and see if we can find anything else for him?

 :)
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: Gali on Sunday 02 April 17 11:25 BST (UK)
Thank you Ruth, that's very kind of you. 

His name was Edward Frederick Towerzey born circa 1836.  A rare surname I think, with plenty of scope for misspelling in the records I've found so far. 

I've located him in online records as follows
1841 census,Norton St, Marylebone with his parents and siblings.
1851 census, lodging at Charlotte St, Walworth.
Plus there are newspaper articles relating to his arrest and the A*try mention of his conviction. 

But nothing else at the moment.  Thank you for any help.
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: snowball on Monday 03 April 17 23:59 BST (UK)
Hi - Several court reports from 1852 (via Findmypast) relate the evidence of him stealing coat and money and gambling away the proceeds but beyond saying he was sentenced to a year's hard labour have no more details.
Rob
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: Gali on Tuesday 04 April 17 13:57 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help Rob, yes, I've seen those articles and the sentencing of course but thereafter he seems to vanish.  I wondered if any prison records survived so I could find out if he made it out of there, and then changed his name or emigrated perhaps, but no luck so far! 
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: snowball on Saturday 08 April 17 08:37 BST (UK)
Hi - looks like he died soon after

Deaths Mar 1856   
Towerzey    Edward Frederick   Kensington    1a 82
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: Gali on Saturday 08 April 17 09:30 BST (UK)
No, I have that death certificate, that's the death of his father
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: snowball on Saturday 08 April 17 10:51 BST (UK)
?

Deaths Dec 1857   
Towsey Edward
Kensington  1a   65
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: Gali on Saturday 08 April 17 10:57 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for your help Rob, it's very kind of you.  I had discounted that one as it looks as if that person was aged 41 at their death (using the free search option on gro.gov.uk) whereas in 1857 the Edward I am searching for should have been around about 21. 
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: snowball on Saturday 08 April 17 12:47 BST (UK)
Indeed. Edward d 1857 is a solicitor in Chancery Lane, it turns out...
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: cuffie81 on Saturday 08 April 17 13:01 BST (UK)
Could this be him in 1861?

1861 Census - St Marylebone

George Wells; Head; 47 (est b1814) Finchley, Middlesex;Carman
Caroline Wells; Wife; 35 (est b1826) London, Middlesex;
Caroline Wells; Daughter; 10 (est b1851) London, Middlesex; Scholar
Edward Towsley; Boarder; 26 (est b1835) London, Middlesex; Carman

Ref RG09; Piece 75; Folio 77; Page 39;
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: snowball on Saturday 08 April 17 13:19 BST (UK)
George Wells = Caroline Townley in Paddington Dec 1846. Might be a red herring. Her father not Edward...
Title: Re: 1850s prison records
Post by: cuffie81 on Saturday 08 April 17 13:31 BST (UK)
George Wells = Caroline Townley in Paddington Dec 1846. Might be a red herring. Her father not Edward...

Looking for Caroline Townley on the 1841 census she does appear to have brother named Edward,  born abt 1835. So it looks like you're right and it's not Gali's Edward.

Ref HO107; Piece 680; Book 8; Folio 30; Page 53