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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Berkshire => England => Berkshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: laurenbavin on Saturday 01 April 17 06:33 BST (UK)
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Hello Im trying to find details on the Crockford Family of Waltham St Lawrence.
My husband has a DNA match to a descendant of Lydia CROCKFORD born c1792 and my husband descends from Philip CROCKFORD born c1790.
THe DNA match would suggest perhaps Lydia and Philip were brother and sister or 1st cousins at the most distant.
While I can find marriages for both, I can not find their births to prove their relationship.
I have been unable to find parish records online and live in New Zealand so visiting a records office is not possible so Id appreciate any info anyone has on this family
Thanks
Regards
Lauren
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Hi Familysearch has the following
Philip Crockford christening 31st of july 1791 at Chertsey surrey
father William Crockford
mother sarah
Sorry not had time to look some more as grandchildren are here Will have another look later
Sandy
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My 2x great grandmother was a Crockford - Mary Ann born 1843 in White Waltham, Berkshire. Bear with me as it gets complicated...
Her father James was baptised 1804 in nearby Binfield, Berks, so his father Benjamin Crockford baptised 1773 in Easthampstead, Berks would be of your Philip and Lydia's generation.
Benjamin was illegitimate but his mother Elizabeth Crockford was baptised in Waltham St Lawrence and the generations before her came from WSL and, before that, from Hurst, Berks. All these places are very close to each other.
I think your Philip is the one baptised in WSL 23 Aug 1789 to Philip and Martha. Philip snr (1752 WSL) was the brother of my Elizabeth. He married Martha Sheppard in 1781 in WSL.
Not sure what type of cousins that makes us but there's definitely some connection although distant enough for me not to have gone that far into it. I had Philip's marriage on my tree but hadn't identified any of his children. I found Philip jnr on Family Search.
I'm still looking for Lydia. I suspect she's probably the daughter of another sibling but not coming up on Family Search.
Incidentally, I've never really looked into DNA testing and had no idea it could give you such direct connections.
Jill
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There's a marriage in WSL 14 Dec 1811 between Lydia Crockford and Richard Poulter which is probably the lady you're looking for, but I still havn't located her birth/baptism so no idea who she 'belongs' to.
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Was that any use to you?
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SOrry for the delay in getting back to this - the notification of a response went to my spam box !- Thank you so much for this - I will see if I can finally connect these two families.
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Oh and yes that Lydia is the one in the tree of my husbands DNA match.
Getting a match that has names and locations in common makes it easier to define how you are related to the match (along with the amount of DNA you share) It would appear that you are also related to my husband!
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Jillruss I think if my calculations are correct you and my husband are 7th cousins
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I never could work out all those complicated cousin relationships :-[ but we're certainly distantly related.
I never did find Lydia though, so still no idea where she fits in.
Has your husband gone very far back in time with his Crockfords?
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Hello,
Sorry for jumping in on this thread - but it peaked my interest. I'm wondering if I am the DNA match the OP's husband: it says it's a good confidence match - 5th to 8th Cousins.
Lydia Crockford is my four times great-Grandmother. She married Richard Poulter 1811. I haven't been able to go further on the Crockford line yet, but it's something I'm determined to do.
I live about four miles from Waltham St Lawrence - I've been there a few times. What's interesting is there are several places in there with Crockford in the name: Crockfords Copse, Crockfords bridge and Crockfords cottages. I'm wondering if they were a fairly prominent family in the area. Also. in Binfeld - a nearby village - there is a road called Crockford Place.
Regards,
Mark.
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Hi Mark
I've found you on my husbands match list ! He has 3 matches with Crockford as a surname in their tree
I'm sure Lydia must be a sister or close relative of my husbands Phillip who was born in 1790 . I have his father and grand father but can't connect then to Lydia
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Hi Lauren,
It does sound that Philip is a Brother (or other close relative) of Lydia. Since the online records are being so allusive, I think I'm going to make a visit to the Berkshire archives and see what I can find there.
If I find anything, I'll let you know.
Best regards,
Mark.