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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Berkshire => England => Berkshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Deb Clark Rennie on Tuesday 28 March 17 15:38 BST (UK)
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This is only my second attempt at doing this so I hope I'm in the correct area. I've had a tremendous help here from Chris who was able to help me put together the Newbury part of my family tree. So now I'm hoping I might some help with the Wokingham part.
My 3 x great grandfather was Frederick Mayo Wade born in 1832 according to his military records and some census records he was born in Wokingham near Reading (earlier records called it Oakingham?)
His parents were Joseph and Martha Wade, Martha was born in Newbury to John and Mary Grubb, Mary Grubbs parents were John and Mary Paradise née Mayo.
Unfortunately Joseph Wade remains a mystery and all I know about him is that he wasn't born in Newbury and that he was a widower when he married Martha. He is buried in the Arbor Hill Military Cemetery in Dublin. He was with the 60th Royal Rifles 2nd battalion and so therefor they lived in different places. As he died in service I've been told his records were most likely destroyed.
What I'm hoping to find is his son Frederick Mayo Wades baptisim in Wokingham and possibly his younger sister Isabella Caroline Wade born 1839. I can only guess she may have been born in the same area as the 1841 cencus just says she's not from Newbury. She also died in Dublin as she married a soldier, had a child in Canada and another in Ireland where she is buried also.
I do have Frederick's military records (also from the 60th Royal Riffles 2nd battalion) as he enlisted at just 14 before spending many years overseas in South Africa, India and China before returning to the UK where he was at Kingston Barracks. Before retiring to Kingston on Thames until he was widowed and then moved to where his daughter was living and is buried in Wiltshire.
I was hoping that perhaps by finding his Wokingham baptisim maybe it might give some information on his father Joseph who it seems was a prison guard for the British Military.
So if anyone has access to baptisim for this area and could check it would be greatly appreciated.
Frederick's granddaughter Daisy Isabella Wade was mostly raised by her grandparents as she was the illegitimate daughter of Frederick's daughter named after his sister. Daisy married Ted Clark from Stroud and they migrated to Australia after the First World War. So I'm a bit to far away over here to check for myself.
Blessings
Deb
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What I'm hoping to find is his son Frederick Mayo Wades baptisim in Wokingham and possibly his younger sister Isabella Caroline Wade born 1839. I can only guess she may have been born in the same area as the 1841 cencus just says she's not from Newbury.
An 1839 birth should be on the birth registration index but I can't find one for her :-\
1841 census only say yes or no to born in that County not the actual town or village :)
As both places are in Berkshire then you would need to look in another County for a baptism.
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Were there any more siblings do you know?
There's a baptism in Jersey Channel Islands 16 Feb 1842
father Joseph Wade
mother Martha Grubbe Wade
child Martha Priscilla born 22 Dec 1841
death for her in Dublin 2 Sep 1851 - father Sgt Joseph Wade
Arbour Hill Cemetery
There's a piece about her death on the find a grave site with a photograph of the stone if you don't already have it.
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So presume the family were in Dublin at the time of the 1851 census. And 1861 for Joseph - no trace of him to give a birthplace?
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Thank you for your reply ... yes that is them they had two children in Jersey and another (Charles) in Dublin.
But Frederick and Isabella I can't seem to find baptisims for? They are proving a challenge :) that's for sure.
Bkessings
Deb
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You cannot assume that in 1841 Wokingham was part of Berkshire. At that time it was partly in Wiltshire and you need to look there for baptism records.
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Oh and yes nothing for Joseph ... quite frustrating I'm told thy often destroyed records for soldiers that die in service ... I have no idea why? He had also been widowed but again no idea who his first wife was as I don't know where he was from?
Blessings
Deb
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Thank you .. will check Wiltshire ... although Frederick says he was from near Reading?
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I did find Joseph in Ireland in 1851 just lists heads of families and he is listed at the Royal Barracks, military Provest and Garrison cells. But unfortunately this also does not state where he is from ... and I've no idea where his family are?
Blessings
Deb
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Six parishes to the east and south of Reading were peculiars of the Dean of Sarum. Sonnng, Hurst, Wokingham, Sandhurst, Ruscombe and Arborfield. These were transferred to the diocese of Oxford in 1844 and at that time became part of Berkshire. There is an old boundary stone opposite the main entrance to All Saints Church in the centre of Wokingham which marks the boundary between Berkshire and this disjointed part of Wiltshire.
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Baptism:
Place: All Saints Church Wokingham
Date: 12th April 1833
Name: Frederick Mayo Wade
Parents: Joseph & Martha Wade
Abode: Market Place
Father's Occ: Sergeant of 60th Reg of Riffle Corps
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You are a gem!! You've been so very generous with your time ... I was thinking of writing another post here as I've also since found some more information on Jospeh Wade ... I had some help from a researcher who did 2 hours at Kew for me to check into Jospehs muster rolls. As I couldn't work out how to do it.
Turns out he enlisted in London in 1820 and the only clue to his place of birth is "st George" which there was a Jospeh Wade baptised at St George the Martyrs in Southwark Surrey born 1803 baptised 1804. So we are checking into that now.
He was was discharged a year before he was due a pension in Nov 1840 in Corfu. He received a payout which it's believed was in leu of a pension and then continued on in a private roll mostly as a prison warden and possibly at one stage as a school master ... as it turned out there was another child Selina Matilda Wade she was born in Dublin ... who added another twist to the family tree in that she married her brother Frederick's brother in law Francis Edwin. Jospeh is listed as school master on her marriage record. I'm told this was quite common in that ex soldiers were offered these positions and as Jospeh was a colour sergeant he was educated. there is another twist to Selina's story ... she's listed with Francis' parents in 1871 cencus and Francis is an inmate ... for reasons I haven't worked out yet. Francis later remarries and is noted as a widower on marriage record but there is no death I can find of Selina ... however I find Selina now as Selina Dunbar and living with her niece for the next 3 cencus records (daughter of Fredrick's other sister Isabella who also married a soldier Richard Hall) Selina is listed as Selina Matilda Dunbar .... but I don't believe she legally married her husband Alexander. So I'm thinking her marriage to Francis didn't work out.
Just to make things a little interesting ... I'm hoping it's not the same Jospeh ... but it's possible Jospeh's first wife didn't die either! Awaiting outcome of that bit of information.
On Joseph's muster rolls his occupation was listed as slate maker. I will let you know what the outcome is on Jospeh.
Thanks for your help, what a surprise to receive your message!
... after I posted my last post here we were invited to Dubai where my brother in law lives for a two week holiday, only I had to return less than a week later as my dear dads health took a turn for the worse and I got back with only enough time to hold his hand and say good bye ... I believe he waited for me as an hour and forty minutes later he was gone ... he wasn't conscious when I got back which was rather awful ... but I rang him while he was still able to speak ... just wish he was still here to share all this with me ... it's been a tough few weeks ... he died 5 weeks ago tomorrow.
Can't believe it still ..
Having the family tree to work on has given me a bit of a distraction.
I've also been checking a link on my mother's side ... seems she too has Berkshire ancestry ...
Blessings
Deb