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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: RobinRedBreast on Saturday 11 March 17 17:49 GMT (UK)
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Hello There,
The above person was one of my 3x Great Grandad's Brother in law's. Robert married Elizabeth Hunter, in Barrow, in 1835. I think Robert was born in Alford, around 1810. His shop was at number 243, High Street, Lincoln. He is there in the 1841 Census, I think transcribed as: "Bryant", and there still in the 1851 Census. He is also listed as a: "Silversmith and Jeweller". Robert died in 1860.
Sorry for this long winded intro but I can't find out very much about his clock making on the internet. This may be an extremely long shot, but I just have a few questions please:
Does any one have any information about when Robert started his shop on the High Street in Lincoln?
Any information about the Clocks that he made also please?
Any information about the above person at all would be gratefully accepted. ;)
Thank you very much. :)
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Hi there
The following are the entries in "Lincolnshire Clock, Watch and Barometer Makers" for Robert Hoff Bryan.
"BRYAN, Robert Hoff, Boston
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BRYAN, Robert Hoff, Boston Working in Lincoln till 1856
BRYAN, Robert Hoff, Lincoln Worked as a clock and watchmaker and jeweller at 239 High Street (White's Directory 1842) and later at 243 High Street (Slater's Directory 1850; Kelly's Directory 1855; White's Directory 1856). Previously at the Square, Retford"
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BRYAN, Robert Hoff, Boston Working in Lincoln till 1856
BRYAN, Robert Hoff, Lincoln Worked as a clock and watchmaker and jeweller at 239 High Street (White's Directory 1842) and later at 243 High Street (Slater's Directory 1850; Kelly's Directory 1855; White's Directory 1856). Previously at the Square, Retford"
Thank you very much for this.
Cheers. :)
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767293.0
also here...
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Baptism Alford. Robert son of John and Elizabeth Brian.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=514984&iid=26819
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Hi, I was looking for info on r. H. Bryan clock maker. And came across your messages. Thank you for the information to get started. I was left one of his fusee clocks by someone. So was interested in finding out a bit more about its maker.
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Roberts Father was a Shoemaker according to bapts of Roberts siblings.
EG 05 Jun 1818 ELIZA Hoff Bryan
John BRYAN married Elizabeth HOFF 05 Jul 1809 Alford
(FreeREG)
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There is a newspaper report from January 1851 describing legal proceedings in which his assistant was convicted of stealing watches. It is a long article and it doesn't really give any insight into his life so I am not posting it.
There are many newspaper items from 1857, April onwards, pertaining to his bankruptcy.
24 August 1860: Lincolnshire Chronicle
Deaths
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At Tattershall, on the 17th inst., very suddenly, of disease of the heart, Mr. Robert Hoff Bryan, watch-maker, of Coningsby, aged 50 years.
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24 August 1860: Stamford Mercury
CONINGSBY.—Sudden Death.—On Friday last, just after breakfast, the inhabitants of this place were thrown into a state of consternation by a report that Mr. R. H. Bryan watchmaker, had suddenly died at Mr. Barnett's, draper, Tattershall. It appears that Mr. Bryan rose at 5 o'clock, when he seemed cheerful & well: he partook of a hearty breakfast, and left home for Tattershall station, intending to go to Lincoln. He proceeded by the river bank (it being the nearer way), and had nearly reached Tattershall, when he met Mr. R. Hartly, to whom he said he felt unwell, and feared he should be too late for the train. Still feeling unwell he relinquished the idea of going to Lincoln, and resolved to return home by way of Tattershall, His indisposition increasing he called at Mr. Barnett's to rest himself, observing that he felt very unwell. Just then Jackson (who runs a conveyance to the station) passed, and Mr. Bryan shouted after him, requesting him to call as he returned to take him home. He then sat down in Mr. Barnett's shop, and said, "What poor frail creatures we are!" Mr. Barnett replied, " Yes, how feeble is our mortal frame; what dying worms we be!" Seeing a change in Mr. Bryan, Mr. Barnett ran for Mr Marshall, draper, his next-door neighbour who came with a bottle of smelling salts, but Mr Bryan's head fell back, and the vital spark had become extinct. The body was conveyed to Mrs. Rhodes, the Fortescue Arms, and an inquest was held the following day before Mr. J. C. Little, coroner, when a verdict was returned of "death from disease of the heart, induced by excitement and over exertion." Mr. Bryan was an excellent scholar, an intelligent man, and reporter for two newspapers. The esteem in which he was held was evinced by the large number who attended his funeral. He was conveyed to the grave by six Wesleyan local preachers, he himself having been one some years ago.
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8 May 1857: Stamford Mercury
Sales by Auction.
Important UNRESERVED SALE of elegant GOLD and SILVER WATCHES, DIALS, TIME-PIECES, CLOCKS, GOLD CHAINS JEWELLERY, STOCK in TRADE and SHOP FIXTURES the Property of the Assignees of Mr Bryan, Watchmaker, Lincoln, a Bankrupt.
To be SOLD by AUCTION,
By BROGDEN and SON,
On Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, May 11, 12, 13, and 14, 1857, in the long Shop lately occupied by Mr. T. SIMPSON, ironmonger, opposite the premises occupied by Mr. John Norton, draper, to which place the Stock has been removed for convenience of sale, 52 New and splendid Gold and Silver LEVER and other WATCHES, of the best workmanship; White and Black Marble Time-pieces and Skeleton Clocks, under glass shades; magnificent Regulating Clock, with mercurial pendulum, dead beat escapement, jewelled pallets, &c. &c., in solid mahogany case with plate-glass front-shop price 30 Guineas; 20 Eight-day and other Clocks and Time-pieces; Gold Neck Chains, Albert Watch Chains, Seals, Keys. Pencil-cases, Rings, Toothpicks Shirt-pins and Studs, assortment of Jewellery; Silver Spoons, Chains, Pencil-cases, Cigar-holders, Butter-Iives, Pickle-forks, Tooth and Ear-picks, Albert Chains, Guard Chains, &c. &c: &c.; Electro-plated Marrow-spoons,. Dishes, Table and Dessert Forks, Gravy, Table, Tea, Mustard, and Salt-spoons, Sauce Ladles, Tea and Coffee Pots, Sugar-bowls, &c. &c.; large stock of Watchmaker's Goods, 1500 Watch-glasses, Main-springs, Clock-faces, Lines, Balls, and Spires; Enamelled Watch-dials, and a large assortment of Tools and Materials.
The valuable Household FURNITURE, Beds, Bedding, &c. &c., will be sold on Thursday.
Descriptive catalogues may be had (2d. each), at the Auction Offices, Lincoln, on and after Monday next.
Lincoln, April 27, 1857.
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Roberts Father was a Shoemaker according to bapts of Roberts siblings.
EG 05 Jun 1818 ELIZA Hoff Bryan
John BRYAN married Elizabeth HOFF 05 Jul 1809 Alford
(FreeREG)
Thank you.
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24 August 1860: Stamford Mercury
CONINGSBY.—Sudden Death.—On Friday last, just after breakfast, the inhabitants of this place were thrown into a state of consternation by a report that Mr. R. H. Bryan watchmaker, had suddenly died at Mr. Barnett's, draper, Tattershall. It appears that Mr. Bryan rose at 5 o'clock, when he seemed cheerful & well: he partook of a hearty breakfast, and left home for Tattershall station, intending to go to Lincoln. He proceeded by the river bank (it being the nearer way), and had nearly reached Tattershall, when he met Mr. R. Hartly, to whom he said he felt unwell, and feared he should be too late for the train. Still feeling unwell he relinquished the idea of going to Lincoln, and resolved to return home by way of Tattershall, His indisposition increasing he called at Mr. Barnett's to rest himself, observing that he felt very unwell. Just then Jackson (who runs a conveyance to the station) passed, and Mr. Bryan shouted after him, requesting him to call as he returned to take him home. He then sat down in Mr. Barnett's shop, and said, "What poor frail creatures we are!" Mr. Barnett replied, " Yes, how feeble is our mortal frame; what dying worms we be!" Seeing a change in Mr. Bryan, Mr. Barnett ran for Mr Marshall, draper, his next-door neighbour who came with a bottle of smelling salts, but Mr Bryan's head fell back, and the vital spark had become extinct. The body was conveyed to Mrs. Rhodes, the Fortescue Arms, and an inquest was held the following day before Mr. J. C. Little, coroner, when a verdict was returned of "death from disease of the heart, induced by excitement and over exertion." Mr. Bryan was an excellent scholar, an intelligent man, and reporter for two newspapers. The esteem in which he was held was evinced by the large number who attended his funeral. He was conveyed to the grave by six Wesleyan local preachers, he himself having been one some years ago.
Thank you.
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8 May 1857: Stamford Mercury
Sales by Auction.
Important UNRESERVED SALE of elegant GOLD and SILVER WATCHES, DIALS, TIME-PIECES, CLOCKS, GOLD CHAINS JEWELLERY, STOCK in TRADE and SHOP FIXTURES the Property of the Assignees of Mr Bryan, Watchmaker, Lincoln, a Bankrupt.
To be SOLD by AUCTION,
By BROGDEN and SON,
On Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, May 11, 12, 13, and 14, 1857, in the long Shop lately occupied by Mr. T. SIMPSON, ironmonger, opposite the premises occupied by Mr. John Norton, draper, to which place the Stock has been removed for convenience of sale, 52 New and splendid Gold and Silver LEVER and other WATCHES, of the best workmanship; White and Black Marble Time-pieces and Skeleton Clocks, under glass shades; magnificent Regulating Clock, with mercurial pendulum, dead beat escapement, jewelled pallets, &c. &c., in solid mahogany case with plate-glass front-shop price 30 Guineas; 20 Eight-day and other Clocks and Time-pieces; Gold Neck Chains, Albert Watch Chains, Seals, Keys. Pencil-cases, Rings, Toothpicks Shirt-pins and Studs, assortment of Jewellery; Silver Spoons, Chains, Pencil-cases, Cigar-holders, Butter-Iives, Pickle-forks, Tooth and Ear-picks, Albert Chains, Guard Chains, &c. &c: &c.; Electro-plated Marrow-spoons,. Dishes, Table and Dessert Forks, Gravy, Table, Tea, Mustard, and Salt-spoons, Sauce Ladles, Tea and Coffee Pots, Sugar-bowls, &c. &c.; large stock of Watchmaker's Goods, 1500 Watch-glasses, Main-springs, Clock-faces, Lines, Balls, and Spires; Enamelled Watch-dials, and a large assortment of Tools and Materials.
The valuable Household FURNITURE, Beds, Bedding, &c. &c., will be sold on Thursday.
Descriptive catalogues may be had (2d. each), at the Auction Offices, Lincoln, on and after Monday next.
Lincoln, April 27, 1857.
Thank you.