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Title: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 10 March 17 09:38 GMT (UK)
I've always been a bit stuck on getting back beyond my ggg grandparents. 

All I know about James is he appears on the 1841 census in Huddersfield born Yorkshire age 45 with wife Sarah and family.  He was a farmer/husbandman on children's baptisms which were in Cumberworth up to c1826 so am guessing the family moved into Huddersfield after that date.

I have a death certificate from 1843 where he is 55 (informant Sarah Hinchliffe present at the death) which seems quite a difference even allowing for age errors but Sarah is widowed in 1851 so even if that isn't him he died before 1851.

There are a couple of baptisms around 1796 specifically with a father William mother Martha that could be him but I just don't know.  None of his children had those names.  The first son was called Mark the first daughter Eliza. 

Would appreciate any pointers as would love to get back a little further and be as confident as possible am on the right track. 
I don't know his wife's parents either but that's for another time!

Thank you  :)

 
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 18 January 20 11:04 GMT (UK)
Still stuck and as a relative has recently asked if I have found out anything thought I would chance posting again to see if anyone has any ideas.

Thank you. 



 
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: davethepost on Saturday 18 January 20 12:01 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have a mate who is called Hinchliffe and his family come from Yorkshire and he has a lot of informtion. I will bring your information around the next time i see him

Dave
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Saturday 18 January 20 13:14 GMT (UK)
Hi

You could have another look at the GROs for death on gov site now they have age so it might show another possible death.

John
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Saturday 18 January 20 17:26 GMT (UK)
There are loads and loads of likely Hinchcliffes down as baptised /banns published, in Cumberworth St Nicholas' church in the 1790s, as that was given as baptism place for young Charlotte, in 1818. I've spent a while pottling through them, nothing leaps out, and most are listed as "clothiers" - not surprising, there.
Tried to hunt around for possible marriages for your James to a Sarah - but unfortunately Ancestry seems only to hold marriages to 1812, (which would be rather young!)
Sorry. Perhaps there may be later records for that church? Perhaps at West Riding Archives?
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 18 January 20 22:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dave.

I have the marriage of James & Sarah Wood as 1816 but his parents (and hers) I am stuck with.

I have James as labourer in 1841 and husbandman Cumberworth Half on a couple of baptisms of his children.  Only found baptisms for the older children none for the younger ones.

Daughter Rhoada baptised at Kirkburton All Hallows 1824 has "Birkhouse" abode and labourer.

Thanks for having a look for me. 

Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Sunday 19 January 20 16:34 GMT (UK)
That's why I'd started hunting in the Cumberworth (St Nicholas) records, but they haven't them later than 1812 on Ancestry, and I was really hunting marriages. A couple of likely baptisms, as you said, but not able to narrow it down. All the Hinchcliffe families in that area do seem to be closely linked, which doesn't make it any easier for you, does it? Sorry.
TY
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Monday 20 January 20 08:32 GMT (UK)
His seems to have been buried in Huddersfield St. Peter's 16 July living in Paddock but there was a James Hinchliffe died 1850 Huddersfield aged 51.

John
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Wednesday 22 January 20 09:21 GMT (UK)
Hi

Just had a look at the marriage and it is with banns & consent of parents so one or both were underage. One of the witness's was a Uriah Hinchliffe, been looking for him but all I can find is a marriage in 1808 at Clayton West but it gives him as being from Emley.
The Clayton West links could worth following up.

John
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 22 January 20 11:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks John I got nowhere with Uriah so thought maybe he was just a witness rather than a relative.

The 1841 is a mess of names/ages but Sarah is down as being 48 to his 45.   
In 1851 she is 55 born Kirkburton.
By 1861 she has remarried (59 when she married in 1854) and is 67 born Cumberworth and living Upper Cumberworth.

Frustratingly no fathers name when she remarried  :(

But back to James, is Clayton West a small area? 
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 22 January 20 13:01 GMT (UK)
I have in my tree a distant cousin Sarah Wood b Cumberworth 1793 to Joseph Wood and Sarah (Calverley).  Ancestry hints (FWIW) that she was the Sarah Wood who married an Ebenezer Booth - that marriage took place at Clayton West with High Hoyland, 22 Feb 1814.

Probably not helpful but may have some use for elimination purposes.
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 22 January 20 13:05 GMT (UK)
Are you on AncestryDNA, Milliepede?  I have lots of lines going back to Clayton West, High Hoyland, Cumberworth, Skelmanthorpe, Kirkburton - it would be interesting to see whether we were related.
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 22 January 20 15:17 GMT (UK)
Always handy to rule one out thanks. 

No I haven't done DNA but would love to find someone descended from the same family.

James' son Thomas is my link.  He left Yorkshire before he married and lived elsewhere for the rest of his life so it's been difficult tracing his roots. 
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Wednesday 22 January 20 15:33 GMT (UK)
I found an Uriah Hinchcliffe in Penistone area when I was chasing round after James' birth / baptism, hoping to narrow it down for you the other day. Can't recall the context exactly, but I certainly found it via "Ancestry".
I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping that you do manage that breakthrough - and if / when you do, please let us know.
TY
Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 22 January 20 15:59 GMT (UK)
That's nice thank you appreciate the support  :)

I can see a Uriah on Land Tax Records 1798 & 1818 Cumberworth Half.  Not found those records before.

Title: Re: James Hinchliffe 1796-1843 - who did he come from?
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Thursday 23 January 20 07:22 GMT (UK)
hi

Clayton West is a small village north east of Sciissett & about 2 miles from Cumberworth.

John