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Hi, over the last few years I have tried to find out more information on my grandfather & his family but haven't been too successful but here I am again with fingers crossed someone out there can help me. My grandfather was David Frances Mckeever from shanlongford ringsend coleraine. I have found him on census 1901 & 1911, which was a great find as we had very little info on his parents - David & Ellen (nee Kelly) which both died when he was very young, we now also know he had brothers & sisters. I found a little info on them but not a lot! Can anyone help with what school they might of addended in this area & of possible farm names in Shanlongford?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Kind regards :)
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what year was he born?????
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for reference
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/587726/
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Welcome to rootschat :).
brothers & sisters. I found a little info on them but not a lot!
To prevent anyone wasting time & looking up info you already have it would be a good idea if you can tell us what you DO know, however little that is.
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Oops...He was born 1909.
His parents I believe died 1914, although I have no death certificates to proof this but I'm desperate to know where he went after this & what happened to his brothers & sisters. Unfortunately I never knew my grandfather but my dad & family say he never spoke of his life in Ireland other than his parents dying.
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of possible farm names in Shanlongford?
There is a list of townlands here
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/
Shanlongford is in the civil parish of Errigal.
There is a website with old Ireland maps which will show the farms, can't find it at the moment....
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No need to have two topics on the same subject as it causes needless confusion.
Assuming you aren't familiar with the area-
Shanlongford is the townland (this will be considered the property's address- it was only about 1970 that we got road names and postcodes)
Here's a map showing the townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/errigal/shanlongford/
It's quite likely the property didn't have a name of its own (haven't looked to see exactly where it might be but if it's in Shanlongford I can see part of it and walk to it from my home)
Ringsend is the enumeration district for the census as well as the local post office (now closed) so this might appear on letters addressed to the family.
Coleraine is the nearest town but it's about 8-9 miles away from Shanlongford.
The 1911 census (link given above) says there were 14 children but only 8 living although there could be others born after the census was taken (April 1911).
Here's the 1901 census (transcription duplicated for some reason)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/1516687
Both census have links to the pages that will give details on house, etc.
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for reference
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/587726/
. This is correct & the only info I have on them. I found a Betty & John Mckeever also from shanlongford, which would be my grandfathers grandparents
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I found a Betty & John Mckeever also from shanlongford, which would be my grandfathers grandparents
In the kindest possible way - even in a small place, I hope you are not making this assumption without proof...perhaps you have David & Ellen's marriage cert or David's baptism?
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Boleran Chapel-
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1455732
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No need to have two topics on the same subject as it causes needless confusion.
Sorry for any confusion cost but you are right I am not from the area. I'm in Scotland, where my grandfather settled. & this is very new to me.
I can't believe how close you stay to my grandfathers roots.
Mckeever seems to be a very popular name over there, where we're no do common here in Wigtownshire now spelled "Mckeevor".
I had hoped if there was a farm name I might of started a new lead for me.
There was also an Eliza Mckeever who stayed next door but I can't find the connection 🤔.
Do you think my grandfather & siblings would of been put in a local workhouse after the parents dying?
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Valuation Revision Book for 1911-1929 (latest available) are online at www.proni.gov.uk
David McKeever in 19 B.a (a labourer's cottage rented from Coleraine Rural District Council) changed to John McKeever in 1916 then James Mackey (no date).
James McKeever age 18 died 1916- brother John registered death-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05254/4457101.pdf
Patrick McKeever, orphan, age 9 months, died Coleraine Workhouse 1914-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05197/4436033.pdf
Eliza McKeever died age 25 in 1917 also of TB-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05210/4440649.pdf
No obvious deaths for parents yet.
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This is a great bit of information to add to my notes! I can't thank you enough for helping.
Bolerin - would this of been their parish then?
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McKeever isn't actually that common a surname in this particular area.
Daniel, son of John & Elizabeth (Cochraine), born 1865 Belraugh-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305090.pdf
Children-
Eliza/Lizzie born 1891 Belraugh, died 1917
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1891/1892344a.pdf
David born 1893 Gorran
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02308/1865173.pdf
John born 1894 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02243/1844534.pdf
James born 1896 Shanlongford, died 1916
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02143/1813531.pdf
Mary born 11 Dec.1897 died 1899
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05791/4638196.pdf
Daniel born 1899 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02044/1782726.pdf
Thomas born 1900 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02000/1769113.pdf
Catherine/Cassie born 1905, died aged 9 weeks in 1905 Killowen, Coleraine
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01777/1698564.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05588/4570407.pdf
Bernard born 1906 Kyle's Brae, Coleraine, died aged 4 months
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01733/1684932.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305090.pdf
Patrick Joseph born 1907 Tybarn but family lived Maevemenogher
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01843/1718937.pdf
Mary Ann born 1907 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01691/1671495.pdf
David Francis born 1909 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01606/1644702.pdf
Maggie Mary born 1910 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01564/1631191.pdf
George Alexander born July 1911 Shanlongford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01522/1617799.pdf
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Parents-
Ellen McKeevor, age 40, died 2 May 1914 Shanlongford of kidney disease-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05305/4475738.pdf
David McKeevor, age 53, died 10 Oct.1914 Shanlongford of jaundice-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05290/4470663.pdf
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Daniel McKeever, bachelor, died 1911 Shanlongford- death registered by sister Eliza-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05383/4502480.pdf
Father John died 1911 (just before census) aged 105-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05406/4510485.pdf
Mother Betty died 1905-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05588/4570402.pdf
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Mrs. Mary McKeever, age 26, died 1897 Gorran-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05850/4657867.pdf
Thomas Boyce m. Eliza Ann McIvor
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10488/5819386.pdf
children of Thomas Boyce & Eliza Ann McKeevor-
Eliza (1900)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02012/1772611.pdf
Letitia (1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01936/1749037.pdf
William (1903)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01883/1732317.pdf
Maggie Jane (1904)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01820/1711996.pdf
Letitia (1906)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01755/1691929.pdf
Anna/Annie Teresa (1909)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01628/1651565.pdf
Thomas (1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01533/1621268.pdf
Bridget (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01466/1597992.pdf
Josephine Letitia (1915)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01390/1571666.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/652553
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Eliza Boyce, daughter of Eliza Ann McKeever, with grandmother Eliza McKeever in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/587727
Possibly Eliza in 1901 but age later changed for Old Age Pension?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Belraugh/1516697
Others researching same family (mistakes but might be useful tidbits)-
http://gw.geneanet.org/belfast8?lang=en&iz=9&p=john&n=mckeever&oc=5
https://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=30&p=surnames.mcivor
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Pension Claims-
McKEEVER Elizabeth John McKEEVER Elizabeth McKEEVER Shanlongford Aghadowey Coleraine Londonderry 1851 - John & Betty McKeever md 1842, no return of a daur Elizabeth. Elizabeth born June 1851 1921 - Agents, Ballycrum, Limavady, Co Londonderry
John MCKEEVER - - Shanlongford Aghadowey Coleraine Londonderry Hired with Jack MCCURDY.
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Can anyone help with what school they might of addended in this area
Ringsend School is most likely one- was turned into a private dwelling when school closed, knocked down a number of years ago and new bungalow rebuilt- see here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.0372558,-6.7473435,3a,75y,348.77h,87.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slmOAP-RRbU2t7Y8j1_aRAQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DlmOAP-RRbU2t7Y8j1_aRAQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D26.011097%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Old school would have been on left, just before Shanlongford Road, house along road on right was Cochranes who had the mill
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Shanlongford is partly in Aghadowey & partly in Errigal civil parishes.
1892-1910 6a David McKeever renting house & office from James Tannahill. 1910 changed to Coleraine R.D.C. (when cottages would have been built) but David McKeever in 19 B a from 1908 (dates in book only guide)
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Pension Claims-
McKEEVER Elizabeth John McKEEVER Elizabeth McKEEVER Shanlongford Aghadowey Coleraine Londonderry 1851 - John & Betty McKeever md 1842, no return of a daur Elizabeth. Elizabeth born June 1851 1921 - Agents, Ballycrum, Limavady, Co Londonderry
John MCKEEVER - - Shanlongford Aghadowey Coleraine Londonderry Hired with Jack MCCURDY.
What does no return of daur Elizabeth mean? 🤔 & what did John Mckeever hire?
I found John on the griffiths valuation! (Sorry if these seem silly questions ha)
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Shanlongford is partly in Aghadowey & partly in Errigal civil parishes.
1892-1910 6a David McKeever renting house & office from James Tannahill. 1910 changed to Coleraine R.D.C. (when cottages would have been built) but David McKeever in 19 B a from 1908 (dates in book only guide)
R.D.C meaning? 6a - 19B - are these cottage numbers? What would the office be hired for?
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Mrs. Mary McKeever, age 26, died 1897 Gorran-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05850/4657867.pdf
Thomas Boyce m. Eliza Ann McIvor
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10488/5819386.pdf
children of Thomas Boyce & Eliza Ann McKeevor-
Eliza (1900)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02012/1772611.pdf
Letitia (1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01936/1749037.pdf
William (1903)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01883/1732317.pdf
Maggie Jane (1904)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01820/1711996.pdf
Letitia (1906)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01755/1691929.pdf
Anna/Annie Teresa (1909)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01628/1651565.pdf
Thomas (1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01533/1621268.pdf
Bridget (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01466/1597992.pdf
Josephine Letitia (1915)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01390/1571666.pdf
Sorry what connection is this?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/652553
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Don't be afraid to ask questions. This is all new too you and there's lots of information posted very quickly which will probably take a while to make sense for you.
R.D.C meaning? 6a - 19B - are these cottage numbers? What would the office be hired for?
R.D.C. is the Rural District Council which I mentioned earlier
'Office' is any sort of outbuilding- barn, stable, piggery, etc.
6a & 19Ba are the property numbers for valuations. Starting from Griffith's Valuation (mid-1800s) and continuing until c1930 the valuation records are online and document a property showing tenant & their landlord, description (house, etc.), acreage, annual rent & changes in occupier. These numbers will also appear on valuation maps- see here: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
McKEEVER Elizabeth John McKEEVER Elizabeth McKEEVER Shanlongford Aghadowey Coleraine Londonderry 1851 - John & Betty McKeever md 1842, no return of a daur Elizabeth. Elizabeth born June 1851 1921 - Agents, Ballycrum, Limavady, Co Londonderry
In 1921 Elizabeth McKeever made a pension application giving someone at Ballycrum, Limavady as contact. She stated her parents were John & Elizabeth McKeever of Shanlongford. The 1851 census was checked in Dublin (this was just before it was destroyed) and that census said John & Betty McKeever were married 1842 but no daughter Elizabeth listed in household. It would seem that Elizabeth either said she was born June 1851 or this was proved otherwise.
John MCKEEVER - - Shanlongford Aghadowey Coleraine Londonderry Hired with Jack MCCURDY.
At an unspecified date a John McKeever of Shanlongford made a pension application saying he was working for Jack McCurdy at the time of census (1851?). No indication if he was located in census or any other details.
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If you go to Griffith's Valuation, search for Shanlongford, click on 1st choice (Aghadowey Parish) the click occupants:
1- Alexander Cochrane (house & mill I mentioned in Streetview image- junction of present Boleran Road & Craigmore Road)
2- National School (Ringsend School)
5th entry (4b) is John McKeever in a house belonging to John Millen. Since such houses often were associated with a farm labourer's employment it's possible he worked for this John Millen (who had the flax mill) at this stage.
Now click on 2nd map view for John McKeever- you can adjust slider from modern to historical maps, zoom in, etc.
John McKeever was living up this lane (lots of new houses built there over the last 10 or so years)- see here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.0352423,-6.7470098,3a,75y,270.8h,86.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLhnwgwDdOyKL6cwmQBDfrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
This is one of those new houses which is for sale at the moment-
https://www.propertypal.com/curraghglass-manor-118a-boleran-road-ringsend-coleraine-derry-londonderry/440397
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Patrick McKeever, orphan, age 9 months, died Coleraine Workhouse 1914-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05197/4436033.pdf
Do you think Patrick could of been a son of Eliza (Also in workhouse) as Patrick is stated as 7 in the 1911 census 🤔
Eliza McKeever died age 25 in 1917 also of TB-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05210/4440649.pdf
No obvious deaths for parents yet.
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Boleran Chapel-
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1455732
Look through some old notes, I have a picture of a grave of 2 men buried here, tommy (Thomas) & John...I believe these could be my grandfathers brothers.
Any more records of the others being in the work house? & were you able to leave a workhouse on ur own consent
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there's lots of information posted very quickly
I'll say....fantastic work aghadowey, that must have taken you some time...
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there's lots of information posted very quickly
I'll say....fantastic work aghadowey, that must have taken you some time...
A tremendous job done, & extremely greatful...can't believe how quick it's took aghadowey from putting up my post. Really needing to find some time to sit down a piece it all together, write it all down & show my dad, it means a lot!
Thank you
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Sorry for delay in posting again but there's more ;)
Found more children of David & Ellen so here's the lot-
1. Eliza/Lizzie McKeever (1891 Belraugh-21 June 1917)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1891/1892344a.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1917/05210/4440649.pdf
2. David McKeever (1893 Gorran-1893)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02308/1865173.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05988/4703414.pdf
3. John McKeever (1894 Shanlongford) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02243/1844534.pdf
4. James McKeever (1896 Shanlongford-1916) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02143/1813531.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05254/4457101.pdf
5. Mary McKeever (1897-1899) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05791/4638196.pdf
6. Daniel McKeever (1899 Shanlongford) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02044/1782726.pdf
7. Thomas McKeever (1900 Shanlongford) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/02000/1769113.pdf
8. Ellen Jane McKeever (1903 Bolerin-1903)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01883/1732330.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05674/4598375.pdf
9. Catherine “Cassie” McKeever (1905 Coleraine-1905) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01777/1698564.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05588/4570407.pdf
10. Bernard McKeever (1906 Coleraine-1906) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01733/1684932.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305090.pdf
11. Patrick Joseph McKeever (1907 Tybaran) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01843/1718937.pdf
12. Mary Ann McKeever (1907 Shanlongford-1908) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01691/1671495.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05489/4537569.pdf
13. David Francis McKeever (1909 Shanlongford) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01606/1644702.pdf
14. Maggie Mary McKeever (1910 Shanlongford) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01564/1631191.pdf
15. George Alexander McKeever (1911 Shanlongford-1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01522/1617799.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05390/4504954.pdf
It could be that the older children (or relatives, neighbours or friends) looked after the younger children when the parents died. In 1914- Lizzie (23), David (21), John (20), James (18), Daniel (15), Thomas (14), Patrick (7), David (5), Maggie (4), so only the 3 youngest would likely be in school.
Have to correct any earlier typo-
Patrick McKeever, orphan, age 9 months, died Coleraine Workhouse 11 Dec.1917 (not 1914)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05197/4436033.pdf
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I wonder who Patrick belonged to then? If Ellen had passed away 1914 then he couldn't be a brother of my grandfather. & also how did Eliza end up in the workhouse, being head of the family I thought she might of cared for the young ones.
I'm thinking David 1893 must of passed away before 1909 or why would u have 2 boys with the same name.
I'm confident Patrick & Thomas are buried in Bolern (ballerin) both dying in the 1970's.
So Margaret (Maggie) may where did she get to? 🤔
I Desperately want to know who cared for my grandfather 😔
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Had a few GRONI credits so check Patrick's birth certificate-
11 Dec.1917, Infirmary coleraine, Patrick McKeever of Shanlongford, male, bachelor, 9 months, orphan, general tuberculosis exhaustion certificate, registered by J. McLarnon, Workhouse 7 Jan.1918.
His birth certificate (not yet available online) would show parents (or at least mother) but I think that he was Lizzie's child. He was born around March 1917, she died of TB in August and he (an orphan) died of TB in December.
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Bit got left out earlier and didn't realise when I posted list of surviving children in 1914. You are correct- David died aged 4 months in 1893-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05988/4703414.pdf
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Still have more to post from what I found other day and suggestions of other resources to check.
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Now, going back a generation-
John McKeever (d.1911) m.(1842) Elizabeth “Betty” Cochrane (d.1905) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/1516712/ https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05588/4570402.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05406/4510485.pdf
1. James McKeever (1843-1930) m.(12 Mar.1867) (9 Mar.1868) Ellen Foster (1847-1935)
Marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZX-S87
Death (James) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3ZF-Z9Q
Death (Ellen) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3P7-TK9
1. Mary McKeever (1869)
birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPDN-BY6
2. James McKeever (1871-1938)- to US
birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPKX-L8F
3. John Hill Neal McKeever (1874-1942)- to U.S.Birth
birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5FY-1NR
death https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQ8Q-KMS
2. John McKeever (Dec.1848)
bpt 31 Dec.1848 Errigal (Curragh) http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/13/mode/1up
3. Eliza McKeever (1853-aft.1921)
bpt 16 June 1853 Errigal (Curragh Glass) http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/25/mode/1up
4. Mary A. McKeever (c1859) m. Alexander Forbes- to US
Marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9L-DR9D
5. David McKeever (Mar.1863) m. Ellen Kelly (c1874-1914)
bapt http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/47/mode/1up
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10698/5899472.pdf Ellen, Craigmore, father William soldier
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05305/4475738.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05290/4470663.pdf
6. Daniel McKeever (1865 Belraugh-1911), unm. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305090.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05383/4502480.pdf
An online tree gives a William & Sarah as children but I can find no evidence of this yet, although William of Cam (see next post) is a possibility.
The baptisms giving family at Curragh & Curraghglass fit the Shanlongford location I mentioned earlier from the valuations.
Based on the dates of birth and fact that it's likely all the McKeevers were connected (John perhaps coming into the area to work and meeting a local girl). Betty Cochrane is quite possibly one of the Shanlongford family which would mean this was a mixed marriage. Unfortunately although I have lots of information on the Cochranes I'm unable to connected her to this (or any other) Cochrane family. There are no McKeevers in the area in 1831 census (lists head of household only).
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Cam is not far from Shanlongford-
William “Billy” McKeever m. Ann Mullan
1. William McKeever bpt.15 June 1862 Errigal parents- Billy McKeever & Ann Mullan http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/45/mode/1up
2. Francis McKeever bapt.1863
3. Michael McKeever (alive 1913)
4. Margaret McKeever (c1865-1913 Cam) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Letterloan/Carn/1517617 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05329/4483590.pdf
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I'm totally bamboozled now ha, you are so good at this!
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Local knowledge and years of practice ;)
Will check Boleran for gravestones when I get a chance.
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Thank you. My dad reckons my granddad had a sibling in ballentrae (Ayrshire). I'm thinking it would need to be Margaret if any of them 🤔 Where do I start with this?
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Local knowledge and years of practice ;)
Will check Boleran for gravestones when I get a chance.
I tried attaching a picture of the grave I have - it won't send. Under Mckeever it has "crockindolg". Is this a clue to anything?
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Cam is not far from Shanlongford-
William “Billy” McKeever m. Ann Mullan
1. William McKeever bpt.15 June 1862 Errigal parents- Billy McKeever & Ann Mullan http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/45/mode/1up
2. Francis McKeever bapt.1863
3. Michael McKeever (alive 1913)
4. Margaret McKeever (c1865-1913 Cam) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Letterloan/Carn/1517617 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05329/4483590.pdf
what's this connection?
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what's this connection?
see reply#35
Crockindolg (written as Crockindollagh in valuation books) is a townland near Gorran. I had a look at the latest available book (stops in 1929) and no McKeevers there.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/errigal/crockindollagh/
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx
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I thought it might of been a town/village. Be interesting to find their death certificates now to see if this is where they died
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Patrick J McKeevor from what i can see was the only one to marry. He married Annie O'Hagan of Brockaghbuoy. O'Hagan seems to be a big connection in that area. There are a lot of headstones with this name on it!
PJ is buried in St Joseph's Glenullin Churchyard - (he must have moved from shanlongford when he married to Brockaghbuoy in Glenullin)
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Hi All
If this helps - I located William John McKeever of Tiberan, Errigal died on 4th February 1881. He is 32 years old. Death registered by Daniel McKeever
I think this explains the confusion - William & John are the same person.
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Hi All
If this helps - I located William John McKeever of Tiberan, Errigal died on 4th February 1881. He is 32 years old. Death registered by Daniel McKeever
I think this explains the confusion - William & John are the same person.
Same person as ? William John McKeever died 1881 age 32 so born c1849.
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Yes - On the 1851 Census - John & Betty have a son William aged 2 - therefore born in 1849 (But no John listed on the Census).
They also record James - age 7 and Sarah - age 2 who died in 1848.
As John on your list is born Dec 1848 - he could still be 2 but on the verge of being 3 at the time of the 1851 census.
The GRONI Death Certificate I viewed for William gave his full name as William John McKeever - I therefore concluded that William and John were in fact the same person - or another possibility is that John died and the next child William was given his name - but then - like Sarah he would be included on this 1851 Census.
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Ah, makes more sense now but you hadn't mentioned the 1851 census information. An online tree I saw at the start of searches gave children William & Sarah both born c1849 but no details listed.
The 1851 census record would seem to rule out William McKeever of Cam as son of John & Betty (dates were tight be just possible if that William was born at the very start of their marriage (1842).
Revised list-
John McKeever (d.1911) m.(1842) Elizabeth “Betty” Cochrane (d.1905)
1. James McKeever (1843-1930) m. Ellen Foster
2. Sarah McKeever (c1846-1848)
3. John/William John/William McKeever (Dec.1848-1881)
4. Eliza McKeever (June 1853-aft.1921)
5. Mary A. McKeever (c1859) m. Alexander Forbes
6. David McKeever (Mar.1863) m. Ellen Kelly (c1874-1914)
7. Daniel McKeever (1865 Belraugh-1911), unm.
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Revised-
William “Billy” McKeever m. Ann Mullan
1. William McKeever bpt.15 June 1862 Errigal parents- Billy McKeever & Ann Mullan http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/45/mode/1up
2. Francis McKeever bapt.1863
3. Michael McKeever (alive 1913)
4. Margaret McKeever (c1865-1913 Cam) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Letterloan/Carn/1517617 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05329/4483590.pdf
5. Susan McKeever (c1876?-aft.1911)
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Just back from Boleran Chapel and found (with help from old gravedigger) the McKeever marker (not a headstone) which says
Mc KEEVER
Crockindolg
Tommy died 07/05/1973
John died 25/97/1979
Rest in Peace
Think they lived in one of these 2 cottages from what I was told this morning- see Streetview (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.0152472,-6.7212443,3a,75y,132.52h,79.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj9M-DjUjS_pTnixEoP2QMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
One on right (greatly renovated) was sold recently but originally they would have been identical-
https://www.propertypal.com/86-gorran-road-garvagh/340539
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Excellent! Do these cottages ring bells with you amcg?
I took a venture to ballentrae cemetery yesterday but had no joy. I need more info on Margaret first before I go back.
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Now, going back a generation-
John McKeever (d.1911) m.(1842) Elizabeth “Betty” Cochrane (d.1905) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/1516712/ https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05588/4570402.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05406/4510485.pdf
1. James McKeever (1843-1930) m.(12 Mar.1867) (9 Mar.1868) Ellen Foster (1847-1935)
Marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZX-S87
Death (James) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3ZF-Z9Q
Death (Ellen) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3P7-TK9
1. Mary McKeever (1869)
birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPDN-BY6
2. James McKeever (1871-1938)- to US
birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPKX-L8F
3. John Hill Neal McKeever (1874-1942)- to U.S.Birth
birth https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5FY-1NR
death https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQ8Q-KMS
2. John McKeever (Dec.1848)
bpt 31 Dec.1848 Errigal (Curragh) http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/13/mode/1up
3. Eliza McKeever (1853-aft.1921)
bpt 16 June 1853 Errigal (Curragh Glass) http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/25/mode/1up
4. Mary A. McKeever (c1859) m. Alexander Forbes- to US
Marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9L-DR9D
5. David McKeever (Mar.1863) m. Ellen Kelly (c1874-1914)
bapt http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633042#page/47/mode/1up
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10698/5899472.pdf Ellen, Craigmore, father William soldier
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05305/4475738.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05290/4470663.pdf
6. Daniel McKeever (1865 Belraugh-1911), unm. https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03546/2305090.pdf https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05383/4502480.pdf
An online tree gives a William & Sarah as children but I can find no evidence of this yet, although William of Cam (see next post) is a possibility.
The baptisms giving family at Curragh & Curraghglass fit the Shanlongford location I mentioned earlier from the valuations.
Based on the dates of birth and fact that it's likely all the McKeevers were connected (John perhaps coming into the area to work and meeting a local girl). Betty Cochrane is quite possibly one of the Shanlongford family which would mean this was a mixed marriage. Unfortunately although I have lots of information on the Cochranes I'm unable to connected her to this (or any other) Cochrane family. There are no McKeevers in the area in 1831 census (lists head of household only).
In order to help establish a connection - I'm not sure what information you have to hand - but are you aware that "Widow Cochrane" lived with John and Betty McKeever in Shanlongford on the 1851 Census. John states she is his M/L (I assume - Mother in Law) and she is 53?
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Re Mary A McKeever (b1859) m Alexander J Forbes
Could this be the headstone of Mary A Forbes (nee McKeever)? The birth date would appear to be incorrect!
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=forbes&GSfn=mary&GSmn=a&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=10522753&df=all&
In the 1880 US Census she is single & living in West Toulon, Stark Illinois working as a servant - born 1858. Immigrated 1877.
In the 1900 US Census she is 45, married with 6 children living in Elmira, Stark, Illinois. She records her birthday as Jun 1854. and her age as 45.
In the 1910 US Census she is 58, married with 7 children (6 alive) living in Elmira, Stark, Illinois - born 1852.
So far I have not located either travel documents or death certificate for Mary A Forbes (nee McKeever) but I will continue to look but without the birth info you placed online I was not able to connect her to this family. Thank You.
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In order to help establish a connection - I'm not sure what information you have to hand - but are you aware that "Widow Cochrane" lived with John and Betty McKeever in Shanlongford on the 1851 Census. John states she is his M/L (I assume - Mother in Law) and she is 53?
I certainly didn't have the information from 1851 census but since we know that John's wife Betty was Cochrane no surprise that his mother-in-law was a Widow Cochrane. Age 53 in 1851 indicates born c1798.
1831 census for Shanlongford shows a Geo Cochren (2 males, 3 females)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Coleraine/Aghadowey/Shanlangford/5
and a Wm Cochren (2 males, 1 female)- 1836 valuation shows Wm Cochran with the corn mill there. This is probably the William cochrane born c1807 who died 9 Nov.1842. His father, William Cochrane, born c1764 died 12 Nov.1841, and lived Killyvalley (1807) and Tirkeeran (both near Garvagh).
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Coleraine/Aghadowey/Shanlangford/16
There are other Cochranes in same area-
James in Cashel- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Coleraine/Macosquin/Cashell/11
Robert in Leck-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Coleraine/Macosquin/Lick/3
etc.
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Amcg - I have sent you a couple of emails. Sorry I don't know how to attach link to this page 🙈. & wont let me attach pictures
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Or maybe it has...a little large tho lol! I've seen a thread containing information about Mary a Mckeever & Alexander Forbes but can't seem to find the beginning of the threat on ancestry. I will continue to look :)
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Name: Alexander J Forbes
Name Note:
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Feb 1885
Event Place: Stark, Illinois, United States
Event Place (Original):
Registration Date:
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Race:
Birth Date:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1859
Birthplace:
Marriage License Date:
Marriage License Date:
Father's Name: Robt Forbes
Father's Titles and Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Margaret Lenox
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Paternal Grandfather's Name:
Paternal Grandmother's Name:
Maternal Grandfather's Name:
Maternal Grandmother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Mary A Mckeever
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Mckeever
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name: Elizabeth Cochran
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Paternal Grandfather's Name:
Spouse's Paternal Grandmother's Name:
Spouse's Maternal Grandfather's Name:
Spouse's Maternal Grandmother's Name:
Note:
Page: 62
Reference ID:
GS Film Number: 001403417
Frame Number:
Digital Folder Number: 005203040
Image Number: 00977
Citing this Record:
"Illinois, County Marriages, 1810-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9L-DR9D : 3 March 2016), John Mckeever in entry for Alexander J Forbes and Mary A Mckeever, 25 Feb 1885; citing Stark, Illinois, United States, county offices, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,403,417.
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No need to cut & paste all the details from LDS site (or post image)- link to the Forbes/McKeever marriage was posted in reply #35.
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Thank you for the Cochrane & McKeever updates.
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I have LOTS of Cochrane information in my files (some of which pertain to Shanlongford family) but problem is making a connection to Betty McKeever :-\
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No need to cut & paste all the details from LDS site (or post image)- link to the Forbes/McKeever marriage was posted in reply #35.
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Sorry not finding this site the easiest to work with - please bear with me. I work from my mobile. Not ideal but hubby uses laptop a lot for work 😩
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I don't like posting from my mobile either ;)
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Hi All
Ref Reply #53 I didn't notice that Mary Ann's brother George is living with her in 1910 US Census. He gives his DOB as October 1855. He dies in 1939 in Elmira, Stark, Illinois, USA. He is a bachelor. His birthplace on the death record I found is recorded as Garvagh.
So that's another sibling for the list in Reply #48.
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Well spotted. I hadn't really explored the American records.
New revised list- ** to America
John McKeever (d.1911) m.(1842) Elizabeth “Betty” Cochrane (d.1905)
1. James McKeever** (1843-1930) m. Ellen Foster
2. Sarah McKeever (c1846-1848)
3. John/William John/William McKeever (Dec.1848-1881)
4. Eliza McKeever (June 1853-aft.1921)
5. George McKeever** (Oct.1855-1939)
6. Mary A. McKeever** (c1859) m. Alexander Forbes
7. David McKeever (Mar.1863) m. Ellen Kelly (c1874-1914)
8. Daniel McKeever (1865 Belraugh-1911), unm
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We can also confirm David & Ellen's son - Daniel Mckeever b.1899 married Elizabeth mcclung/ (Cunningham - previous marriage) 1942 in ballentrae (ayrshire) - died 1945 in mauchline hospital (east ayrshire)
Only margaret to trace!!
I hope I've got that right amcg ;D
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Regarding the Robert Cochran(e) of Leck that Aghadowey mentioned in the 1831 census. He leased 28 acres of land (see Griffith's Valuation and Valuation Revision records) in Leck and died there May 20, 1872, aged 70 (born ca. 1801/02). Interestingly, the Y-DNA results (111 markers) of Robert's great great grandson who currently lives in Coleraine are just in and he shows a genetic distance of 1 (gd=1) to a great great great grandson (residing in Colorado) of another Robert Cochran(e) of Burren More, Dunboe Parish (1805-1888) who immigrated to America in the late 1830's.
My Cochrane ancestors were settled in the townlands immediately south of the River Roe from Limavady (Moys, Deer Park, Ballymore) by the year 1805 but in 1921 a relative of ours visited Limavady and learned from old cousins that the family originally came from the "Macosquin district." One of our Limavady relatives, Margaret Ann Cochrane (1850-1920) married Robert Pollock of Leck and both died there.
The DNA test results of Robert Cochrane's great great grandson shows he has a genetic distance of 3 compared to members of my Limavady relatives -- a bit more remote than our Colorado cousin, but all it does mean we are all descended from the same eastern-County Londonderry Cochrane clan.
Richard Cochran, Big Rapids, Michigan
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Hi there everybody I am new to this website.
I am a 19 year old from Derry City and have been researching my family tree. I have found out that my great grandmother was Margaret (Maggie Jane) Boyce whos mother was Eliza Ann Boyce (McKeever) who married Thomas Boyce in 1896. On the marriage record it states that maggies father was John McKeevor from Curragh , I'm sure this is the john mckeevor born in Curragh in 1848 mentioned above.
Are these people mentioned in this forum related to my ancestors? If so can somebody simply connect the dots for me?
Thanks in advance.
John.
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Hi John
I assume your great grandmother to be Margaret Jane Boyce who married Michael Convery.
This being the case - her parents - as you said are Thomas Boyce and Eliza Anne McKeever. Eliza Anne's mother is Eliza McKeever (1853-1925) - daughter of John and Betty McKeever of Shanlongford - the couple to which this thread refers!
Eliza's baptism is on 16th March 1853 in St. Mary's Church, Ballerin. Her parents are listed as John McKeever & Elizabeth Cochran. Her sponsors are J O'Doherty (pp) & Margaret Black.
This connection is made using the 1901 and 1911 NI Census - Thomas and Eliza Anne's daughter Eliza Boyce is found on the 1911 Census living with her Grandmother Eliza McKeever at house 9 Shanlongford. However, Eliza McKeever states she is 65 years old and single!
I hope this helps to join the dots for you.
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Hi there AMCG
Yes , Margaret Boyce would be my great grandmother.
I have seen the record which says that Eliza Anns daughter was living with her grandmother eliza , but I totally forgot and I was led to believe that Eliza Anns parents where john and Elizabeth Cochrane and not her grandparents?
On eliza anns marriage record to Thomas boyce , it states that her father was called john McIvor , I assumed it was him. If Eliza was her mother , then how come she kept her mothers surname? And how come her father was also a john mckeevor mentioned on the marriage record?
Thanks for helping me to solve this.
John.
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Ok so here goes again - my hunt for Maggie May 🙈. The last of my grandfathers siblings to trace. There has to be info somewhere on her 🙉.
I hope you managed to move forward with your search Johnsderry. If it wasn't for amcg & aghadowey I'd still be spinning in circles.
I hope your all well.
Cjmck - (now cjb) 😉💍
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This thread is now 8 pages long so perhaps you could explain exactly who Maggie May is/was and any details you have already found (or we've found for you) such as date of birth, parents, last known information, etc.
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Ok so what we know is Maggie Mary was born 9/7/1910
father David Mckeever. Mother Ellen Kelly. Registered Aghadowey.
Named as Margaret M on the 1911 census, house 8, ringsend, Shanlongford.
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Ok so what we know is Maggie May was born 9/7/1910
father David Mckeever. Mother Ellen Kelly. Registered Aghadowey.
Named as Margaret M on the 1911 census, house 8, ringsend, Shanlongford.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01564/1631191.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/587726
So, is 1911 the latest record you have for her?
If she married and died in Scotland- as has been suggested earlier- then you'll need to use Scotland's People to get the certificates but difficulty might be that you don't know her married name.
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We can also confirm David & Ellen's son - Daniel Mckeever b.1899 married Elizabeth mcclung/ (Cunningham - previous marriage) 1942 in ballentrae (ayrshire) - died 1945 in mauchline hospital (east ayrshire)
Only margaret to trace.
1911 is my latest record for her. It turned out Daniel moved to Scotland & settled less than 40 mile from my grandfather.
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According to one local newspaper , John McKeever was born in October 1806 , several months after the death of his father. Any mckeever death records from 1806?
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This would be correct as John McKeever died 1911 at the great old age of 105! Unfortunately I don’t have a birth certificate for him - do you? What about the newspaper article does it state johns fathers name?
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Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864 so there won't be birth certificates for anyone born before that date.
I would take the age 105 at death with a pinch of salt. In 1901 census John was listed as age 88-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/1516712
After the introduction of the Old Age Pension it wasn't that unusual for people to add to their age ;)
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Is there a marriage certificate for John & Betty? 🤔
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Civil registration of Catholic marriage started in 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages). It may be that the only marriage record will be from the church (if the records go back far enough) although details are most likely to be minimal.
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I always did take his age with a pinch of salt , until I found a local newspaper from 1911 stating he was born in October of 1806 "several months after the death of his father". I'm guessing this makes his age more believable. Sadly it didn't mention his fathers name.
I have not managed to find their marriage record , sadly.
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I have transcribed the newspaper clipping:
CETENARIAN'S DEATH NEAR COLERAINE
"There has just died at Shanlongford Ringsend , near Coleraine , a labourer named John M'Keever , at the remarkable age of 104 years. Deceased was born in October , 1806 some months after the death of his father. He had many interesting stories to relate appertaining to the district , in which he resided all his life. Deceased retained all his faculties up to a few weeks ago. As late as last year he was a prize winner under the county councils cottage and garden scheme."
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I always did take his age with a pinch of salt , until I found a local newspaper from 1911 stating he was born in October of 1806 "several months after the death of his father". I'm guessing this makes his age more believable. Sadly it didn't mention his fathers name.
I have not managed to find their marriage record , sadly.
A newspaper report is not prrof that he was 104 years old when he died, especially since he died just after the Old Age Pension was introduced.
In 1901 census he was 88 years old- ten years before he died-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ringsend/Shanlongford/1516712
I know of another death for a man reportedly around the same age around this same period. He was a joiner and his obituary mentions, amongst other fantasies that he help build the new church. Working it out from his real age (fourtunately there are early record to confirm real age) he was all of three years old when the church was finished!
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I have transcribed the newspaper clipping:
CETENARIAN'S DEATH NEAR COLERAINE
"There has just died at Shanlongford Ringsend , near Coleraine , a labourer named John M'Keever , at the remarkable age of 104 years. Deceased was born in October , 1806 some months after the death of his father. He had many interesting stories to relate appertaining to the district , in which he resided all his life. Deceased retained all his faculties up to a few weeks ago. As late as last year he was a prize winner under the county councils cottage and garden scheme."
A fabulous little piece of information. Can I ask what newspaper & where you found it.
Thanks you
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This article or similar appeared in Londonderry Sentinel, 11 Mar.1911.