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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: v i c k y on Wednesday 27 July 05 17:58 BST (UK)
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I've just traced my family back to beautiful Yorkshire and wondered if these names mean anything to anyone. If so, please get in touch. :)
GAWKRODGER, Renard - born 1821 in Shepley, christened in Baildon, married in Middlesex in 1830
GAWKRODGER, James (father of Renard Gawkrodger) - born c 1795, married Martha Renard in Baildon in 1820
RENARD, Martha (mother of Renard Gawkrodger) - born c 1795, married James Gawkrodger in Baildon in 1820
RENARD, John (father of Martha Renard) - born c 1770
CRAVEN, Tabitha (wife of John Renard as of June 1785) - christened in 1756 in Baildon
CRAVEN, John (father of Tabitha Craven/Renard) - born c 1735
Best wishes to all and thanks for reading,
Vicky
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Hi Cousin Vicky,
Hope you are still about on Rootschat!
I have just found out this week that your John RENARD and Tabitha CRAVEN are my relatives - John is my 4greats-granduncle!!
That makes us cousins by my reckoning!
Would love to get in touch with you - send me a PM and we can talk some more!
Cheers
Karen
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Hi Vicky
thought this might be of interest
Gaukrogers' feature in the early history of Halifax. The name can be found in most early Parish Registers. A locality of 1 1/2 acres in Sowerby was known as Gaukrocher in 1351.
Platts can sometimes have a Lancashire origin but in this case the surname derives from the name of a farm in Sowerby. The property was held by a branch of the Gaukroger family from 1487 at least and during their occupation they came to use Platts as an alias. It subsequently became their accepted family name
1585 Richard Gaukroger of Platts....Wakefield Court Rolls 4
1597 Richard Gaukroger alias Plattes....Yorkshire Archaeological Society 24
1640 John Gaukroger alias Plats....Yorkshire Archaeological Society 4
1672 John Platts, Sowerby....Hearth Tax List for Agbrigg and Morley Wapentakes
.... Yorkshire Surnames Series 3 Halifax and District 2001 ....George Redmonds
Surname: Gaukroger
This very unusual and interesting name is of early medieval English origin, and is a peculiarly Yorkshire nickname surname for someone thought to be clumsy and awkward. The name derives from the Yorkshire dialectal term "gawk", used of a clumsy, simple person, with "Roger", used as a representative male personal name, although the original surname may have been bestowed on one "Roger" because of a particular incident that has not been recorded. An April Fool is an April "Gowk" in Yorkshire. A sizeable group of early European surname were gradually created from the habitual use of nicknames. These were given in the first instance with reference to occupation, or to a variety of characteristics, such as physical attributes or peculiarities, mental and moral characteristics, supposed resemblance to an animal's or bird's appearance or disposition, or to habits of dress. The surname was first recorded in the mid 16th Century (see below), and other early recordings include: Jon Gawkrycher (1553, Yorkshire), and Daniel Corkroger (1685, ibid.). In the modern idiom the surname can be found recorded as Gaukroger, Gawkroge, Gaukrodge and Gawkrodger. Recordings from Yorkshire Church Registers include: the marriage of Elizabeth Gaukroger and Edmund Wells in October 1554, at Halifax; the christening of Gracia, daughter of Rici Gaukroger, on March 19th 1574, at Elland; and the christening of John, son of Samuel Gaukroger, on November 18th 1593, at Halifax. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Rauffe Gawkeroger, which was dated 1539, in the "Registers of the Parish of Rothwell", Yorkshire, during the reign of King Henry V111, known as "Bluff King Hal", 1509 - 1547. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.
© Copyright: Name Orgin Research www.surnamedb.com <http://www.surnamedb.com> 1980 - 2006
There are many Gaukrogers still living in the Halifax area.
Dave
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Dave, that is very interesting. :)
This very unusual and interesting name is of early medieval English origin, and is a peculiarly Yorkshire nickname surname for someone thought to be clumsy and awkward. The name derives from the Yorkshire dialectal term "gawk", used of a clumsy, simple person, with "Roger", used as a representative male personal name, although the original surname may have been bestowed on one "Roger" because of a particular incident that has not been recorded.
Many thanks for that!
Karen, looking forward to sharing more with you. I have sent you a couple of PMs.
All the very best to both of you,
Vicky
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I have a bit more info on the Baker family, that Renard Gawkrodger married into.
My wifes mother was a Baker, and they continued to live in Southwark until the late 1970's.
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Hi Ken,
Are you still tracing your family tree? I'm just getting back into it.
I discovered today that Ann Millicent Baker, who married Renard Gawkrodger, remarried a William Clark in Southwark in 1876, and noticed that her (youngest?) daughter, Merab Marian Gawkrodger, was one of the witnesses.
- Vicky
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hello Vicki,
Yes still tracking down family members !
Its my wifes family in this case, and her mother was a Baker.
The Baker family seem quite interesting and Jabez Knight Baker (I think Anns brother) was a noted methodist lay preacher whose diaries and notebooks we have.
In these he mentions the Gawkrodgers. I'll have a look and see what the letters say and maybe send you scans.
I have a tree on ancestry , my email is kenrussell1@gmail.com
Regards
Ken
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Hi,
Just found that my 2x great grand Aunt Hannah COULTOUS married Senior RENARD in 1861 in Idle, but unfortunately he died in 1862/3 in Castleford. She then married again to Joseph PICKLES in Halifax. As far as I can make out, they didn't have any children (Hannah was 35 when she married Senior)
Regards
Keith
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Sorry, made a mistake. They Married in St Peter's Cathedral in Bradford.
Keith
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Hi Keith,
How sad that Senior died so soon after marrying. :(
I need to do some research on the Renards, as I don't think I ever really got started. Let me dig out my old scribbled notes and see what we've got...
- Vicky
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Gaukrodger on Heir hunters now started 9.15 maybe on catch up TV
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Hi All
John Renard and Tabitha Craven are my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandparents
would love to hear from anyone who is part of the family
Linda x
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Hi All
John Renard and Tabitha Craven are my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandparents
would love to hear from anyone who is part of the family
Linda x
Hi Linda,
I have a Susan CRAVEN who married John RACE at Horbury August 10 1784 and she is the only CRAVEN in my tree.
I have no idea where she came from but as Baildon is quite close to Horbury I suppose it's reasonable to assume ::) ::) that is where she came from...... I hope. ;) ;)
Does anyone have,or know of,a Susan CRAVEN in their tree who would have been born up to 25 years or so before their marriage date?
Joe.
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I've got the transcriptions of baptisms at St John, Baildon from 1760 - there is no entry for Susan. Sorry.
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I've got the transcriptions of baptisms at St John, Baildon from 1760 - there is no entry for Susan. Sorry.
Thank you BumbleB for your response it is much appreciated as I can ignore Baildon as a possibility.
She must have lived somewhere close as folk rarely travelled more than a few miles at that time.
I shall continue searching with the help of people like your good self.
Joe
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BUT - there is a baptism at Horbury - 20 May 1761 - Susan daughter of Robert. :)
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OR - Susan daughter of Jno Craven, baptised 20 October 1760 - Horbury ;D
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Hi All
John Renard and Tabitha Craven are my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandparents
would love to hear from anyone who is part of the family
Linda x
Hi Linda,
It's been a while, I need to refresh my memory, but wanted to say Hello. :)
I'm sorry I only just saw this.
Vicky