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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: Newfloridian on Wednesday 01 March 17 10:19 GMT (UK)
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I'm trying to tie up a couple of loose ends in one of the branches of the Claypole family.
Mary Ann CLAYPOLE (the daughter of William Claypole and Elizabeth Shaw) was born in Great Easton, Leicestershire in 1823. By 1851 she was in service at the home of Esther Paul, the sister of the Rev George Woodfield Paul, Vicar of Finedon. (Her address was Woodfield Cottage, Thrapston Road in the village).
The indexes show that a Mary Ann CLAYPOLE was married in the Wellingborough District (3b 233) in the second quarter of 1852. In this list, there are two other females and two males. So, Mary Ann could have married:
John BELCHER
William Thomas THOMPSON
or someone else.
I've not been able to find an obvious follow on but could anyone help with an answer. If this is the same Mary Ann CLAYPOLE I would strongly suspect the marriage took place in Finedon
Many thanks
Alan
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Have you checked the new GRO Index search for any Belcher births with mmn Claypole, or any Thompson births with mmn Claypole?
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Hi just checked on Ancestry for you, most trees have her dying in Ontario, Canada in 1895. Same name.
1841 at home
1851 servant
1861 ?
1871 A Mary Ann Claypole on Canada census
Looks like her father married at least twice
Regards
Shirley
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Have you checked the new GRO Index search for any Belcher births with mmn Claypole, or any Thompson births with mmn Claypole?
Hi KGarrad
No joy there I'm afraid
Alan
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Hi Shirley
Yes, I've seen that entry and I've looked through many of the trees that include a Mary Ann CLAYPOLE in Canada. I could only find one tree which had any indication of her other details. Her age (72) and date of death (January 7th 1895) would coincide with the Mary Ann CLAYPOLE I'm questioning. However my scepticism is raised by two points: firstly although her death is registered as CLAYPOLE, she is described as a widow; secondly her death as informed by a son in law W E O'Brien. (I have a feeling that this record has been subject to random cut-and-pasters!)
The next bit of information from the same tree is a findagrave reference for a Mary Ann James CLAYPOLE (same date of death) which is linked to her husband John A CLAYPOLE and 9 children (Photographs of her and the headstone on the tree)
So, back to the drawing board and my first question: Who did Mary Ann CLAYPOLE (possibly of Finedon) marry in the Wellingborough district in 1852?
Mary Ann James Claypole gravesite (https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=CLA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GScntry=10&GSsr=6401&GRid=82802559&)
Alan
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Hi just checked on Ancestry for you, most trees have her dying in Ontario, Canada in 1895. Same name.
1841 at home
1851 servant
1861 ?
1871 A Mary Ann Claypole on Canada census
Looks like her father married at least twice
Regards
Shirley
Mary Ann Claypole on the 1871 Canada census is a widow . Her death registration in Ontario 1895 also states widow and names 2 sons in law who can be matched up with her daughters on the census. Not the same Mary Ann , I'm afraid.
Edit - Sorry Newfloridian , you beat me to it !
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Hi Christine
No worries! I'm glad we are in agreement!! Just need to persuade all the authors of the faulty trees of their fault now!
Alan
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Mary Ann married William Thomas Thompson.
Sandy
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Many thanks Sandy
Should be able to complete a trace now
Alan
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I am going out in a moment but will list details later.
Sandy
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Finedon P.C.
13th? (18th) May 1852
Pg. 92, No. 183
William Thomas Thompson, 19, Bachelor, Bricklayer, Market Harborough, father Joseph, Bricklayer to
Mary Ann Claypole, 28, Spinster, Servant, Finedon, William, Butcher
William signed his name and Mary Ann her mark
Witnesses: Alfred Thompson signs his mark and a ? A Thompson signs his name.
Sandy
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William seems to have re-married.
Market Harborough P.C.
Pg. 156, No. 312
31st Jan 1859
William Thomas Thompson, 24, Widower, Bricklayer, St Mary' Little Bowden, father Joseph, Bricklayer to
Emily Jarvis, 29, Spinster, Market Harborough, John, Shoemaker
William signs his name (the signatures look the same) Emily signs her mark.
Witnesses: Joseph Jarvis and Rose Cook who both sign their names.
Sandy
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Burial for Mary Ann at
Market Harborough P.C.
Pg. 34, No. 266
Mary Ann Thompson, St Mary's Little Bowden, Aug 4th 1858 aged 36.
Sandy
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Hi Sandy
Many thanks
Just curious: did Rev Paul conduct the service? Mary Ann was working as a housemaid for Esther Paul, who, by her age was born around 1780, would have been ?his aunt. Interesting too (as yet untraced) the same household has another housemaid 68 year old widow Mary Tansley (another name of mine to conjure with) who also came from Great Easton.
Alan
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It was G W Paul born in 1820 who took the marriage being Vicar himself of Finedon from 1848 .
Sandy
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Mmm... I wonder what caused her death? I'll report back.
Also, Jarvis is another not uncommon name in my network (45 at the last count and mostly from the Welland Valley). Oddly, too, I haven't so far been able to spot where William and Emily went after their marriage.
Cheers Alan
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I haven't so far been able to spot where William and Emily went after their marriage.
I just leapt in at this point. I looked at the wedding and noticed the general region they were married in - and that William is younger than Emily.
Would this William/Emily fit them?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q277-N6QZ
He's a bricklayer too.
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Same place for 1891 Census .
Sandy
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That would certainly fit
Many thanks
Now working backwards to see where Emily's Jarvis family came from
Regards
Alan
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William dies in Ashtead
Ashtead St Giles.
Pg. 69, No. 547
William Thomas Thompson, The Street, Ashtead, June 3rd 1899, aged 65.
Sandy
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... and that places Emily (Jarvis) Thompson also at St Giles, Astead buried on October 15th 1907
Cheers Alan
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Emily Jarvis, 29, Spinster, Market Harborough, James, Shoemaker
There's this entry but father named JOHN - I wonder if it's your Emily Jarvis in 1841
St Mary Lane, Bowden, Magna, Market Harborough, Leicestershire
John Jarvis 1806 occ Shoe’m
Maria 1826
Emily 1830
Joseph 1833
Eliza 1835
Charlotte 1837
Martha 1840
All born in this county apart for John
GRO indexes now give mother's maiden name
Martha JARVIS mmn COLLINS
1839 D Quarter in MARKET HARBOROUGH Volume 15 Page 172
There’s a John Jarvis occ Shoemaker married to Barbara on 1851/61 census in Market Harborough
1851 HO107; Piece: 2079; Folio: 377; Page: 27
John 46 born Desborough wife Barbara 45,
Joseph 10, Eliza 16, John 8, plus 2 lodgers
John JARVIS mmn COLLINS
1842 D Quarter in MARKET HARBOROUGH Volume 15 Page 176
1861 RG 9; Piece: 2249; Folio: 43; Page: 3
John 56 & Barbara Jarvis 55
John Jarvis
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1805
Baptism Place: Desborough, Northamptonshire, England
Register Type: Parish Registers
Father: Thomas Jarvis
Mother: Mary Jarvis
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Just looked at Emily's 1859 marriage entry and her father's name is JOHN Jarvis not James
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Hi Ladyhawk
Yes, I'd come to the same conclusion. In the 1881 census Emily gives her place of birth as Kibworth;' 1891 Market Harborough.
There are two deaths for Martha Jarvis in Mkt Harborough in 1844 - presumably mother and daughter (don't know which is which!). That leaves John Jarvis free to marry Barbara (?) Grocock at the end of the following year.
I'm interested in tracing the Jarvis family back to see whether they have any connection with my other ancestral families. We have Tilley and Tansley associated with Jarvis heading back to Kibworth and Market Harborough at the time of the Civil War; and another partly connected raft in Cottingham just over the border. Was it just a coincidence that the marriage to Barbara Grocock is registered in Kettering (which includes Cottingham)
Actually the PR shows it to have been in Rushton but that does at least give me his father - Thomas, a soldier (one step back!!)
Alan
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Yes, I'd come to the same conclusion.
In the 1881 census Emily gives her place of birth Kibworth;' 1891 Market Harborough.
So this would be her baptism
Emily Jarvis Baptism date 07 Mar 1830 Kibworth Beauchamp
Denomination Anglican
Father John occ House Servant Mother Martha
Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference DE5417/6 Page 74
Record set Leicestershire Baptisms
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I never fail to be amazed by the remarkable near misses and coincidences that family history studies throw up. Bearing in mind that I started this thread about a Claypole (Emily Jarvis' husband's first wife), I have now placed Emily in the 1851 census working just a few doors away in Gallowtree Gate Leicester from a chap, John Chamberlain, who was intimately involved in the story of the savage murder of the 6 year old son of Sarah Ann Claypole (Mary Ann Claypole's 1st cousin) in Cottingham 25 years later - and, it should be said, the incident which started my own quest to unravel these family histories.
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Sorry about that putting James instead of John.
I thought you were looking at the Jarvis family yourself Alan.
Sandy
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There are two deaths for Martha Jarvis in Mkt Harborough in 1844 - presumably mother and daughter (don't know which is which!). That leaves John Jarvis free to marry Barbara (?) Grocock at the end of the following year.
Market Harborough P.C.
Pg. 153, No. 1220
Martha Jarvifs, Market Harborough, Octr 29 1844 aged 5 years
Sandy
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If you haven't looked Alan this might help.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jlj/
It needs checking against original sources.
Sandy
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So John married Martha Collins on 11 July 1825 at Kilby.
Kilby P.C. By Banns
Pg. 10, No. 29
11 July 1825
John Jarvis of the Parish of Kibworth, County of Leicester, Bachelor, to
Martha Collins, otp, Spinster
Both signed their names.
Witnesses: George Painter, Mary Hufsall
Sandy
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The other burial is noted below.
Market Harborough P.C.
Pg. 153, No. 1208
Martha Jarvis, Market Harborough, Augt 1 1844 aged 40.
Sandy
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St Mary Lane, Bowden, Magna, Market Harborough, Leicestershire
John Jarvis 1806 occ Shoe’m
Maria 1826
Emily 1830
Joseph 1833
Eliza 1835
Charlotte 1837
Martha 1840
There is also an Elizabeth Collins in the same household.
Sandy
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John Jarvis
Baptism 20 Apr 1805 Baptism Desborough, Northamptonshire, England
Father: Thomas Jarvis Mother: Mary
Register Type: Parish Registers
There's this marriage as a possibility (transcription)
Thomas JARVIS to Mary FEKIN
19 Jan 1802 Marriage place Desborough Parish : Stony Stratford Bkm By Banns
Record set Northamptonshire Marriages
Edit
Thomas Jarvis of Stony Stratford in the County of Buckingham and Mary Fekin of this Parish, both made their mark (x) in the presence of John Snr. & John Jnr. Aprice?
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I've been in touch with Linda at the Desborough site several times in the past and her information is usually reliable.
I've also been in touch with Buckinghamshire FHS in the past (maternal side - although they 'emigrated' from Grandborough to Market Harborough in the mid 19th c) so will try another contact to confirm the Thomas Jarvis link. I noticed John declared his father to be a soldier. That could have taken him into the Napoleonic era.
Alan