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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Kris Nugent on Monday 27 February 17 09:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for any information about my Great-grandmother Elizabeth Wilson. My personal searches have not been very successful. In time, I hope to be more proficient in my search abilities. Therefore, I require some assistance please.
The information I have so far:
Elizabeth Wilson (1888-1971)
DOB: November 7th, 1888 - 1 Fountainwell Road, Glasgow. Scotland.
Father: Andrew Wilson (Occupation: Hammerman)
Mother: Eliza McCartney
Elizabeth Wilson migrated to Australia when she was approximately 18 years of age (1905-1906?)
Elizabeth Wilson married James Martin (1890 - 1979) in 1913 in Brisbane, Queensland. Australia.
Elizabeth and James Wilson's children: Florence Elizabeth Martin (1922-living); Heather Joan Martin; Edith Martin and possibly others.
Information pertaining to Elizabeth's passenger listing to Australia and any records relative to her family heritage in Glasgow, Scotland would be appreciated. Any Australian records would be much appreciated too.
Warm regards,
Kris
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If you look on the Scotland’s People Website you can extract the information you require, it is a low cost pay to view site.
Andrew Wilson Married Eliza McCartney 1878 – Kelvin, Glasgow
I’m not sure if this is the correct family but it seems to fit.
1881 Dwelling: 4 Millerbank St, Glasgow
Andrew 24, Elizabeth 23, both born Ireland + Mary age 1 born Glasgow
Andrew’s Occupation Railway Labourer, he might have changed jobs in the next 10 years?
1891 St Rollox, Glasgow, Lanarkshire - 644/6 77/ 9 – would need to see original.
ANDREW WILSON age 34 & ELIZABETH WILSON 31
Children – Mary Jane 11, Andrew 8 & Elizabeth 2
Regards
Colin
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If you look on the Scotland’s People Website you can extract the information you require, it is a low cost pay to view site.
Andrew Wilson Married Eliza McCartney 1878 – Kelvin, Glasgow
I’m not sure if this is the correct family but it seems to fit.
1881 Dwelling: 4 Millerbank St, Glasgow
Andrew 24, Elizabeth 23, both born Ireland + Mary age 1 born Glasgow
Andrew’s Occupation Railway Labourer, he might have changed jobs in the next 10 years?
1891 St Rollox, Glasgow, Lanarkshire - 644/6 77/ 9 – would need to see original.
ANDREW WILSON age 34 & ELIZABETH WILSON 31
Children – Mary Jane 11, Andrew 8 & Elizabeth 2
Regards
Colin
Same family I came up with and the 1891 census also has a Sarah McCartney age 21 born Ireland a visitor with the family ..
Rosie
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Assuming you have the birth certificate for Elizabeth Wilson ? it should show the marriage date for her parents ..
If this is the same family they are still at the same address in the 1901 census 9,Fraserbank Street St Rollex Glasgow
Andrew Wilson 46 born Ireland occupation boltmaker
Eliza 44,born Ireland
Mary 21,Andrew 18,John 17,Robert 15,Elizabeth 12,Maggie 10,William 7,Joan 4,Sarah 2,
All children born Glasgow ...Not having much luck with passenger record
Rosie
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Andrew was a Hammerman at St Rollox railway works which was adjacent to Fountainwell, a semi-skilled job & a wee step up from a labourer. This was probably in the Blacksmiths Shop, my own grandfather was a Hammerman there around the same time! ;D
This was the Caledonian Railway Workshops, known as the Caley & still in business on a much reduced scale.
Skoosh.
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There is this record for a Miss Eliz Wilson departure date 7 July 1904 Liverpool age 17 going to Sydney
Occupation domestic on the Uk departures ship Afric
Then on the Victoria Australia Assisted Passenger lists arrival 19 August 1904 ship Afric her age is down as 15 ..Not much to go on but thought I would mention it just incase
Rosie
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Thanks for the marriage and census records Colin & Rosie. I noticed in 1881 Andrew and Elizabeth are listed on the census records as 24 & 23 years old (1 year age gap); in 1891 Andrew and Elizabeth are listed as 34 & 31 years old (3 year age gap). A typo perhaps?
Rosie, I do have Elizabeth Wilson's birth certificate and her parents marriage dates do correlate with the information you and Colin provided - "Andrew Wilson Married Eliza McCartney 1878 – Kelvin, Glasgow".
Thanks for Andrew's occupational information, Skoosh. May I ask where you acquired it from?
Rosie, thank-you for the passenger list information. Where would I find such information?
Warm regards,
Kris
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Colin and Rosie,
Where could I find Andrew and Elizabeth Wilson's Irish birth certificates?
The information you acquired, did it state where in Ireland they came from and when they were born?
Thanks,
Kris
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Rosie, thank-you for the passenger list information. Where would I find such information?
Warm regards,
Kris
Passenger records on Ancestry you could also try www.familysearch.org..www.civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
Rosie
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You could also get a copy of the marriage certificate for Andrew Wilson 1878 and that should give you the names of the parents for this couple ..Also the names of the witnesses maybe some family members
Rosie
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Kris. you provided the info' I was a railwayman myself so just colouring the picture a bit, a Hammerman operated a steam-hammer for a blacksmith. Glasgow's Springburn was the biggest centre of railway production in Britain in its day, St Rollox was only a part of that!
Skoosh.
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Thanks again, Rosie. You have been most helpful. Much appreciated.
Skoosh, fascinating information. Thank-you kindly.
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Your welcome good luck with your research :)
Rosie
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Kris, this old pic' shows The Caley from the West, the railway line bottom/left goes under Springburn Road where the offices are with a "pend" for vehicles entering the works on the left. The Blacksmiths Shop is behind/right with smoke/steam coming from the chimneys. If you scroll right on the wee pic's at the bottom, you will find a hammerman sitting operating a pneumatic hammer, a replacement for steam power. Pic' No 1219215.
Fountainwell is at the bottom of the picture.
http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/record/rcahms/68411/glasgow-130-springburn-road-st-rollox-locomotive-works/rcahms
The bigger picture of Springburn, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springburn
Bests,
Skoosh.
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Fascinating Skoosh. The photos really put things into perspective. Thanks for sharing!
Warm regards,
Kris
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Hi Kris,
Nice to meet you on RootsChat (what a great service it is, Thank you)
I saw your posts about Elizabeth Wilson.
She pops up on my family tree as a quite distant relative
One of my family lines crosses yours, with John Wilson B: 1884
Elizabeth's older brother, he married Susan Shaw Wiltshire in 1911
in Renfrew, the Wiltshire's are my Grand-mothers line, she also
ended up in Australia (Melbourne), I am also in contact with
someone in that Wilson line too.
I hope we can chat about this.
Best luck on your family search.
Kind Regards
Rod, Melbourne, Australia
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Hi RDAllan and welcome to rootschat .Kris has not been active on here for a few years if their e-mail address is the same they will receive an notification you have posted and hopefully reply
Rosie