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Hi can anyone help looking for my grandfathers grave .he was born in aberdare in 1879 was married to my gran Mary Morgan who was bornin cwmdare they married about 1809 I think he died in about 1960 plus or minus 5 yrs they lived in 29 danygraig terrace Trebanog so I think he is buried in trealaw any help would be great
Thanks
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Hi can anyone help looking for my grandfathers grave .he was born in aberdare in 1879 was married to my gran Mary Morgan who was bornin cwmdare they married about 1809 I think he died in about 1960 plus or minus 5 yrs they lived in 29 danygraig terrace Trebanog so I think he is buried in trealaw any help would be great
Thanks
Name of your Grandfather?
JJ
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Sorry David Edmunds
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It would appear that David Pinkney has replied to your previous post regarding David Edmunds' burial.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=703531.9
JJ
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Sorry new to all this
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Sorry new to all this
No problem :) You'll soon get to know how RootsChat works!
JJ
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Hi, welcome to Rootschat
Also in same plot with David and Mary plot K1 545
Burial 66567 Edmunds Edith Maud age 65 buried 1975. This daughter of couple is with them on last available census, age 1
If you contact Aberdare library via email with burial details, they will send you internment records, address at death etc is on the record. Also from library, (you need an address) electol rolls can hold info, if over 21. Family are at Danygraig in 1939. Ask for previous and post years. They do not have war years.
Cas
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This marriage fits with census
Marriages Dec Qtr 1896
EDMUNDS David Merthyr T 11a 1055
Mary Morgan on same page
1901 for family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSMK-16J address is Trebanog Road
Family can be traced back, let us know if you need any help.
Cas
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Hi cas who else was at danygraig in 1939 or before would be a good help i am waiting for1920 census then my mother will be there as well so any help would be great
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Unable to post 1911 or 1939 details online due to copyright.
Have sent pm.
Do you have access to census?
Cas
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Think this is a likely 1891, David's Marriage cert would confirm. There is a Thomas Edmunds who is a boarder with family in 1901 that fits, looks likely brother.
Victoria Street, Llanwonno, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
RG12 Piece number 4415/109/38
William Edmunds Head Married 51 Police Constable, St Athens Glamorgan.
Eleanor Edmunds Wife Married 36 Aberdare, Glamorgan
Mary J Edmunds Daughter Single 24 Domestic Servant Aberdare, Glamorgan
William D Edmunds Son Single 22 Coal Miner Merthyr, Glamorgan
Eleanor Edmunds Daughter Single 17 Domestic Servant Aberdare, Glamorgan
Thomas Edmunds Son Single Male 16 Coal Miner Aberdare, Glamorgan
David Edmunds Son 15 Coal Miner Aberdare, Glamorgan
Gwenllian Edmunds Daughter 12 Hatter Merthyr, Glamorgan
John H Edmunds Son 11 Scholar Merthyr, Glamorgan
Alice M Edmunds Daughter 9 1882 Scholar Merthyr, Glamorgan
Robert Edmunds Son 7 Scholar Merthyr, Glamorgan
Arthur J Edmunds Son 5 Scholar Treharris, Glamorgan
Edith Edmunds Daughter 3 Scholar Mountain Ash, Glamorgan
Sarah Edmunds Daughter 1 Mountain Ash, Glamorgan
Edgar C Edmunds Son 0 Moutain Ash
1901 same family with married dau https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSMV-C72
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Same family 1881 image is Edmunds
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W9-CXQC
Marriage
WILLIAM EDMUNDS, widower, police officer, age 30,
Marriage 4 Nov 1872
Marriage place ABERDARE, ST ELVAN
Spouse Eleanor Williams, spinster, age 20
Both living Aberaman
Groom's father William Edmunds occ coachman
Bride's father Hugh Williams occ collier
Witness - Thomas Evans, David Davies
Cas
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Do you want to locate the Morgan side?
Cas
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Yes that would be good also in the edmunds family i was named after edgar but i still ned info on the other siblings one was called olga edmunds another son i only know as tommy he went yo war and was totured by the japanese and he married a woman called doris and they were living in bristol the last time i seen them so any help on that would be good how did you get info about 1939 ?
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http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register It is available on FindMyPast, you need a sub or credits to view record but index is free to search.
Unable to post if individuals are still living due to privacy rules
Cas
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Ok no prob will try to look later thanks for your help
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1901 Morgan family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X91G-YPP
1881 Morgan family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W9-8B8C
1891 has Susannah age 7 who was visitor with the Edmunds in1901, she is a sister. Will post next
Ynyslwyd Road, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire
Daniel Morgan Head Married 48 Coal Miner Glamorgan, Wales
Martha Morgan Wife Married 47 Nantyglo, Monmouthshire
John Morgan Son Single 21 Coal Miner Aberdare, Glamorgan
Taliesin Morgan Son 11 Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margaret Morgan Daughter 9 Aberdare, Glamorgan
Susannah Morgan Daughter 7 Aberdare, Glamorgan
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Unable to find online marriage but this looks likely
DANIEL MORGAN
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1864
DANIEL MORGAN married one of these people
Martha Jones or Ann Thomas
District Merthyr Tydfil
Volume 11A Page 567
Will have a look for 1871
1871 Morgan family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BF-5F8
Cas
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There is this birth
Births Jun 1917
Edmunds Thomas G mothers maiden name Morgan Pontypridd 11a 1110
Then there is a marriage in Bristol Sept Qtr 1939 to a Doris on
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
The couple possibly had 2 sons in area
Cas
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My mum suzanah was born 1914 i think the girl called eleanor in 1911 was adopted from ferndale
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http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/439942 Another family member researching.
Ellen born 1901 is still a dau in 1911. The Mary Ellen Nicholls does have a mothers maiden name of Morgan, but she is niece to Mary.
Below is from the GRO index, you have to register but free to search. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
NICHOLLS, MARY ELLEN MORGAN
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 515
There is a death of Morfydd, which would tie with a birth date of 1865, so sister to Mary.
NICHOLLS, MORFYDD age 32
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 261
Here is the marriage
Marriages Mar Qtr 1887
Morgan Morfudd Merthyr T. 11a 586
Nicholls William Merthyr T. 11a 586
Can be found together in 1891, no children.
Cas
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As requested
This looks like 1851 for William Edmunds with parents https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG86-PZS William senior occ is gentlemans groom.
Having trouble locating first marriage and first 2 children on census, in 1871, think I found the son William D born 1869 with his brother David in 1871.
Baptism William https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFH6-P76
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Possible 1871 for Eleanor Williams, father Hugh from marriage, occ collier
1871 Williams family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BF-K8H
Not sure which way you want your family research to go, unless you say which area you would possibly want to know more :-\
Cas
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1871 Glantaff Road, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire
William Edmonds Head 31, widower, police constable, St Athans, Glamorgan
Catherine Edmonds Sister 25 St Athans Glamorgan
Mary J (Jane) Edmonds 4 Daughter, Aberdare
As said William Daniel is with his brother David. First wife died between birth of William D and 1871, marriage and death of first wife falls between census.
Looking at the birth index on GRO suggests Mmn as Thomas. 3 possibles marriages on FreeBMD.
The first 2 children on 1881 census were not Eleanors, but by his first marriage. He remarried your ancestor 1872. The previous children are half siblings.
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Well you are amazing i am keeping everything you send in a file yes keep going that way if you can
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Hi do you think its possible that we could find out william edmunds the policeman as on the tv who do you think you are they had a photo for someone from years ago in the police force how would i go about finding that as that would be marvelous
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I think you should own your own family history, not expect it given on a plate. You have done no research yourself, have missed out on the buzz of finding, even thou I have given you free links to search. Plz don't be another freeloader, you have to be interested to do a bit yourself! Enough said.
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Ok i have done research as i have done the other side of my family back 1876 just asking if you could give me away to find out about the policeman that all and thank you again
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Ok i have done research as i have done the other side of my family back 1876 just asking if you could give me away to find out about the policeman that all and thank you again
Information available is census, BMD and possible newspaper reports. Photographs if any are usually passed down within family members. Connecting with others researching same family can help locate any if there. Link for local newspapers here.
http://newspapers.library.wales/
You could try and locate his police records held at glam archives
http://glamarchives.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/police1-1.pdf
Good luck
Cas
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hi cas yes that one on GenesReunited are part ot us but anable to contact as I don't subscribe to any of these search engines but will still keep looking to se if I can make contact I there any point putting on this site ?
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Think it's free to register, also think it is free to access forum. You could leave a message, if still there they may contact you, or ask another member to leave a message. It has been years since I used it, can't remember how it works.
http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/
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Hi Cas
I may be able to help with Trealaw cemetery records
Please advise act details of who you are looking for and I will try to assist
Fletch303
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Hi Cas
I may be able to help with Trealaw cemetery records
Please advise act details of who you are looking for and I will try to assist
Fletch303
Thank you, I have the Trealaw cem index, it is the poster who was looking. They have been located.
Cas