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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: ROSJAN on Tuesday 21 February 17 03:33 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone help me with any information about the marriage of Benjamin Welton and Ann Vaughan which took place in New Zealand in 1876. I am trying to find out what happened to Ann, I have no information regarding her at all. As for Benjamin he came back to Australia and married Mary Anne Haddon in 1885 and died in 1886. Benjamin had several run ins with the Police and served time in gaol. I am a direct descendant of Benjamin and Mary Anne Haddon. I would be most grateful for any information. Thank You.
Regards,
Rosjan.
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Looks like Ann died in NSW.
Ann Welton
1882 Sydney
F-Louis
M-Mary
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Hi sue 21757
Thanks for that but unfortunately the Ann Welton father Louis mother Mary died Sydney 1882 was not the wife of Benjamin. It is possible that she was still alive in New Zealand when he married Mary Anne Haddon. In 1879 when fronting Hay Court (New South Wales) he stated his wife was in New Zealand and he didn't know if she was dead or alive. He was in court being tried for abduction.
Regards,
Rosjan.
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Can you please list the information on the marriage record, New Zealand, 1876.
Can you please list the details on the death certificate, NSW, 1886.
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Hi Wivenhoe,
I don't have the marriage certificate for New Zealand only the index number and parties, it fits the information he gave at the Hay court. The information on his death certificate in 1886 is as follows: died Grenfell 6/10/1886, cause of death fractured skull (quite a long inquest report in local papers). wife Mary Anne Haddon, No mention of previous marriage, the informant on the death certificate was his mother Jane Welton.
Benjamin died on the same day as his daughter was born.
Regards,
Rosjan.
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Information gathered:
From 1854 – Marriage Act 1854 (Dated 1 January 1855)
Bride and Groom
When and where married
Name and Surname
Age
Rank or profession
Condition
Name of officiating minister (or Registrar)
When registered
Signatures
Signatures of bride and groom
Signatures of the witnesses
Signature of officiating minister (or registrar)
The next change came from 1880.....
Minniehaha.
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Why are you sure that the Ann Welton who died in Sydney wasn't Benjamin's first wife?
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You need to see the details recorded at marriage, 1876.
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Hi johnf04,
The reason that i'm sure that the Ann Welton that died in Sydney in 1882 is not Benjamin's first wife is that she is the daughter of Louis and Mary Welton who arrived in Sydney in 1848 on the Walmer Castle.
Regards,
rosjan.
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There is a file dated 1893 at the National Archives in Wellington, with this description:
"From: Inspector Pardy, Dunedin Received: 3 November 1893 Subject: Mr Moffett, Solicitor on behalf of Francis O'Shannessy asks that enquiries be made regarding one Benjamin Welton; etc does not consider it a case for police interference"
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I also found an interesting story on Papers Past, Southland Times 2nd February 1894, where Francis O'Shannessy was trying to have an order that he support his wife Annie, rescinded. He stated that his wife was a married woman, with a husband still alive, when he married her.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ST18940202.2.14?query=O%27Shannessy
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There is a marriage in NZ BDM 1885/1800 Annie Cashman VAUGHAN to Francis O'SHANNASSEY.
An Annie O'SHANNESSY of unknown age was buried in Invercargill on 22nd January 1918.
http://icc.govt.nz/cemetery-result/?id=56832
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Good finds, Johnf04 - well done. ;)
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Death - NZ BDM (online)
1918 / 2743 - O'SHAUNNESSEY* - Annie Cashman -- 64* years
[Note: * Above is surname spelling at NZ BDM (online) - there are various spellings in other records (to be added ). Likewise, some variations with her age at death - see following posts. ]
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If Annie's correct age was that given on the death registration > 64 years in 1918 = bc 1854 > then she was probably the following girl :
Assisted (Immigration) to Otago
Per ship "Asia" - from Queenstown (Ireland) - arrived 8 February 1874
VAUGHAN - Anne (indexed as "Annie") - 20 years [bc 1854] - ex Cork - General servant
~ Lu
see next >
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Death Notice : O'SHAUNASEY [sic]
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ST19180121.2.12
[* This gives Annie's age as 59 years [bc 1859] ... and surname spelling, "O'SHAUNASEY" ]
~ Lu
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... from Burials and Cremations at Invercargill (@ ancestry)
O'SHANNESSY [sic] - Annie - Mary Street - bur. 22 January 1918 - Cath. Block 8/65
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[Archives New Zealand at Wellington hold a Coroner's Inquest file for the following, but details of the outcome seem to be very well covered in the following article. ]
Inquests - Mrs Annie O'SHAUNASEY
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ST19180128.2.10
[* Her age was given in above, as 58 years. ]
~ Lu
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Lu - I searched Papers Past, Otago region, from 1885, for 4 variants of the surname - O'Shannassy, O'Shannassey, O'Shannessy, O'Shannessey. There are more stories about this poor lady under all of these variants, including the original case she brought against Francis.
John.
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Hi John
Yes, I saw a lot of those stories too.
It seems that (husband) Francis O'SHANNASEY (or var.) was probably the miner of that name, who moved to Western Australia sometime in 1894-95.
There are in NZ newspapers, a couple of versions of a letter he apparently wrote to a person back in Southland telling of his luck and newly-found fortune in mining at Coolgardie (W.A.).
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD18950924.2.27
and F. O'SHANNASSEY
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ME18950917.2.10
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You need to see the details recorded at marriage, 1876.
Hi Wivenhoe,
I don't have the marriage certificate for New Zealand only the index number and parties, it fits the information he gave at the Hay court.
Rosjan ... now that Johnf04 has found the "missing bride", you won't of course need details - (and scant they would be) - from the 1876 NZ marriage record (VAUGHAN - WELTON).
Can tell you though, from another resource (index), that they married on 14 June 1876 at the Knox Presbyterian Church, Dunedin. Both parties were of "full age".
[It would have been helpful too to know (because some of us like to check background information for these searches) that Benjamin WELTON had appeared and been sentenced in the Australian Courts, under the name of Benjamin WILTON. ;) ]
~ Lu
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Francis O'Shannessy?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211597167?searchTerm=%22Francis%20O%27Shannessy%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=Francis+O%27Shannessy|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1894-01-01|||dateTo|||sortby=dateAsc
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Hi all,
Thank you all very much for your help regarding Benjamin and Ann, it was very much appreciated. Thanking you all again.
Regards,
Rosjan.