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Title: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: ringarosy on Friday 17 February 17 23:49 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the Records of Deeds or Titles for a property in NSW, to ascertain if this was indeed the house of my forbears. I have been to the Land and Property Information site, but it is down for maintenance for the moment. Does anyone know if they hold records  there for the period 1918- 1970. From what I understand, they only have on-line searching from 1992. Is this correct? and if so, where do I look to get this information?
TIA
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Friday 17 February 17 23:59 GMT (UK)
http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/public_registers

Since March 2006 access is electronic for all items entered in the General Register of Deeds since November 1992.

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/historical_research

Already know the address

You can work backwards from the current title to the previous title, using LPI's approved information brokers.

You can also work forward from the first title. Early grant information and first title information is shown on a Parish or Town map, available in the Historical Land Records Viewer (HLRV).

You may also find some useful information in our Parish and historical maps and Public registers pages.


http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/historical_research/parish_maps

The above live links are all working for me at this moment.

JM

Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Saturday 18 February 17 00:02 GMT (UK)
Notices
• LPI Online portal will undergo system maintenance Friday 17 February 2017, 6:00pm to Sunday 19 February 2017, 6:00pm. All products and services will be unavailable during this period.


http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/

JM
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Saturday 18 February 17 01:45 GMT (UK)
Some interesting info re LPI for everyone following this thread :
 
http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/150698/Brief_History_of_RG_Records.pdf

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/150705/Old_System_information.pdf

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/150706/Searching_RG_Maps_Plans.pdf

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/150707/Torrens_title_information.pdf

And NSW State Archives:

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/conditional-purchase-crown-land-guide

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/house-and-property-guide  (includes a video)

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/land-records-available-state-records  (includes digitised images)

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/county-parish-maps-guide

Fingers crossed these are of interest.

JM



Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: ringarosy on Saturday 18 February 17 02:48 GMT (UK)
Thanks all for the info.............

Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: ringarosy on Sunday 19 February 17 06:50 GMT (UK)
I have been able to access the site, but they hold no records between 1900 and 1950, the period I am interested in. Seems early records are there, and latest sales and titles back to the 1970's, but have had no luck in finding if my people inhabited a certain house around the 20's/30's.
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Sunday 19 February 17 06:56 GMT (UK)
1920-1930s

Have you tried the Sands Directories?   

City of Sydney Sands http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory

In previous years I have accessed some of the parish maps that were still being updated in the 1950s and 1960s but were originally drafted up in the 1910s and 1920s.

I know NSW government is 'privatising' much of the Land Titles Office functions, but you should be able to get somewhere if you know the Folio number etc and street address unless that has already been sold off.   

JM
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Sunday 19 February 17 06:59 GMT (UK)
http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/ and click on free online searches to discover

agh  :'(  :'(  :'( PURCHASE

Access to land title searches and related products: changes from 1 July 2016

From 1 July, customers who wish to purchase land title searches and related products online will need to use Land and Property Information’s (LPI) network of approved information brokers. These will no longer be available in the current SIX and Online Shop.

You will find details for LPI approved information brokers on the LPI website.

For more information please see LPI Circular 2016-06 Access to land title searches and related products: changes from 1 July 2016.


Sorry,

JM
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: ringarosy on Sunday 19 February 17 07:03 GMT (UK)
Yes, JM, found that too. :(
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Sunday 19 February 17 07:04 GMT (UK)
three viewing places

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/205286/Torrens_Search.pdf

The Torrens Purchasers Index assists researchers find land ownership details between 1863 and 1971 by searching on a surname.

NSW must need to have a quadruple A credit rating.   :'(  :'(  :'(

JM
Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: ringarosy on Sunday 19 February 17 07:28 GMT (UK)
The Sands directory doesn't seem to cover the area I am looking at.


Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: ringarosy on Monday 20 February 17 01:05 GMT (UK)
Found the info on the Torrens Purchasers Index site, thanks JM, but it would have to be the worst site I have ever access for info. Not easy to navigate and they do not use the usual Windows controls. Oh, well, at least I got in info :)

Thanks...

Title: Re: Property Records for NSW.
Post by: majm on Monday 20 February 17 01:10 GMT (UK)
LPI has never set out to be user friendly, even in the physical layout for title searching back before puters or the internet.   I remember taking a feather duster with me on one family history visit in 1970s.  Once Upon A Time ..... 

Back on track

re Sands, Perhaps I have misunderstood your quest, but those Sands Directories from about 1900s to about 1930s should be giving you NSW Country listings, not just Sydney (City and Metro). 

For example,
http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/history/archives/sands/1920-1924/1920-part1.pdf

There's an image reads
Sands Sydney Suburban and Country Directory for 1920

and

http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/history/archives/sands/1930-1933/1930-part1.pdf
and an image there reads
Sands New South Wales Directory 1930
comprising, amongst other information, City Street, Suburban, Alphabetical, Sydney Trades and Professional, Country Towns (including Famers and Graziers), Country Trades and Professional, Pastoral (Including Postal Towns and Localities), Public Watering Places, Educational, Governmental, Parliamentary, and Miscellaneous Lists.

    
JM