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Title: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: Geoff on Saturday 11 February 17 04:45 GMT (UK)
On a 91 Census I have found a son to George & Sarah FENWICK that I knew nothing about.
His name is Philip FENWICK aged 16 years, and it states he was born in NEWTON CAP.
There are plenty of NEWTON places about, but the closest I can get to CAP is NEWTON HALL
This place is about 6 miles from where the family were in previous census', they were at Lanchester.

Anybody know where NEWTON CAP is or is it really NEWTON HALL?

Cheers
Geoff

Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP
Post by: pjs12 on Saturday 11 February 17 05:05 GMT (UK)

Just done a quick Google and Newton Cap comes up as being Auckland, St Andrew Parish. Half a mile N.W. of Bishop Auckland.

www.visionofbritain.org.uk

Hope that helps,

Ian
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 11 February 17 09:06 GMT (UK)
You can see Newton Cap on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101100227#zoom=4&lat=5667&lon=6692&layers=BT

Stan
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP
Post by: Millmoor on Saturday 11 February 17 09:46 GMT (UK)
If I have located the correct family in the 1891 census they would appear to be living in Hunwick which is not far from Newton Cap.

In 1881 I would suggest you check out the family transcribed as Tenick living in Bishop Auckland (Phillip is written with two "l's) while in 1871 they are living at Crook and Billy Row (surname transcribed as Fennick). (In 1881 George's pob is given as Hexham but in the others Sarah is said to have been born there).

Using the new groindexes the only Philip Fenwick birth registered in Auckland RD in the period in question was in Oct - Dec 1876 - mother's maiden name Turnbull.

There is also a christening of a Philip Fennick 31 Dec 1876 St Ann's Auckland Parents George and Sarah.

William
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 11 February 17 11:28 GMT (UK)
You can see Newton Cap on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101100227#zoom=4&lat=5667&lon=6692&layers=BT

This is a better map http://maps.nls.uk/view/101100071#zoom=2&lat=3318&lon=4106&layers=BT

Stan
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP
Post by: Geoff on Sunday 12 February 17 01:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan,

Thank you for the map link, to see what is around the area certainly helps.

Cheers
Geoff
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [ COMPLETED ]
Post by: Geoff on Sunday 12 February 17 02:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you William and Ian for your help greatly appreciated.

One thing that is obvious though is the fact that from the 91 census they did one of two things.
They either lied about his age, or he was born two years before his birth was registered.
If that is possible.

Regards
Geoff
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: Lylacmyst on Tuesday 13 June 17 00:59 BST (UK)
Newton Cap, or Newton Cap Bank as it's known now, is in Bishop Auckland, Durham, around 4 miles out of Hunwick.

Newton Cap, is on a very steep bank and if I recall there used to be houses all the way down the bank.
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 13 June 17 08:44 BST (UK)
Newton Cap was a Township in in St. Andrew Auckland, as shown on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101100071#zoom=2&lat=3318&lon=4106&layers=BT
Township; Originally inhabitants of a small settlement or area and after 1100 divisions of a parish which had its own church. It held civil administrative functions to help the poor and most had been subsumed into parishes by 1866.
Stan
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: Lylacmyst on Tuesday 13 June 17 17:06 BST (UK)
Newton Cap was a Township in in St. Andrew Auckland, as shown on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/view/101100071#zoom=2&lat=3318&lon=4106&layers=BT
Township; Originally inhabitants of a small settlement or area and after 1100 divisions of a parish which had its own church. It held civil administrative functions to help the poor and most had been subsumed into parishes by 1866.
Stan

I am from Bishop Auckland. St Andrew Auckland covered Bishop Auckland and covered areas in the Bishop Auckland vicinity, probably around five to six miles outside of Bishop Auckland. Today, collective townships and villages that fell under St Andrew Auckland, are not known collectively as St Andrew Auckland, anymore as far as I'm aware. The term St Andrew Auckland, is never used........Newton Cap, is the area where the viaduct bridge is, that lies just on the road outside of the town of Bishop Auckland, heading to Toronto, Hunwick, direction. There are houses on this bank, across from this bank and beneath the viaduct. .....Very confusing, to those who will be and are unfamiliar to the area, ......not confusing however, to those born here. Hard to explain though.

Newton Cap today, could be hardly described as a town. It's basically a small area, with a viaduct, a few houses, adjoined directly to what is a town, the town of Bishop Auckland. I have personally always referred to the tiny area of Newton Cap, as just being Bishop Auckland. So has and does everyone else I know, who were born here. But of course, residents of centuries back, may have viewed it differently.
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: Lylacmyst on Tuesday 13 June 17 17:45 BST (UK)
To the initiator of this thread though. If you'd like some photos of Newton Cap and the way it looks today, I'd be happy enough to take some for you :)

Feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 13 June 17 19:08 BST (UK)
Newton Cap today, could be hardly described as a town.


I said Newton Cap was a Township in St. Andrew Auckland. A Township is not a Town, historically it was a division of a parish, in this case of the parish of St. Andrew, Auckland, which formed a unit of local administration, it levied a separate Poor Rate and appointed a constable.

Stan
Title: Re: Have you heard of NEWTON CAP [COMPLETED]
Post by: Lylacmyst on Tuesday 13 June 17 19:24 BST (UK)
Newton Cap today, could be hardly described as a town.


I said Newton Cap was a Township in St. Andrew Auckland. A Township is not a Town, historically it was a division of a parish, in this case of the parish of St. Andrew, Auckland, which formed a unit of local administration, it levied a separate Poor Rate and appointed a constable.

Stan

Lol, ok. I got a bit confused over towns and townships.