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Title: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: Eric8751 on Friday 10 February 17 12:43 GMT (UK)
Hello  Does anyone have and information about the Railway Cottages in Plean.  I would especially like a photograph of them as my grandfather John Stevenson was born there and my great grandfather David Eadie Stevenson was a Forman Surfaceman and later the Railway Gatekeeper there until he retired in 1930 after 38 years service.  There were four cottages in all and were situated in Cadgers Lane, East Plean near the entrance to Gartwinnie Farm.  They were owned by the London, Midland and Scottish Railway Company and were accommodation for railway employees (and their families) who maintained the tracks around No1 and No3  Plean Collieries through to Plean Junction and beyond.  The cottages are shown on early maps of the area but nothing remains at the site today. It is my understanding that they were demolished in the 1960s.  If anyone has photos or information about the Railway Cottages Plean I would like to hear from you and would be grateful for your help.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: hagg1sr00ts on Tuesday 14 February 17 15:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, Eric, looks like railway cottages were at the top of Cadgers Loan. see attached National Library of Scotland clip for 1913.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: pwl1951 on Tuesday 14 February 17 16:25 GMT (UK)
Eric, if you type Plean railway cottages into your browser and then click on images, it should show several photos of the station and cottages.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: Eric8751 on Wednesday 15 February 17 13:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the 1913 map of the Plean area - I have a copy of a different/less detailed version and as can be seen it shows the exact location of the Railway Cottages in question.  They are not located near Plean Station and I cannot find any images of the cottages I am looking for online.  I am hopeful that some photos of the four terraced cottages may exist in a Railway Museum, Coal Mining Museum/Historical Society in the Plean area or possibly in the Stirling Archives.  I live in Australia so checking out these places first hand is a little difficult but hope to visit the Stirling/Plean/Throsk area in the next year or so to do more family research on my Stevenson ancestors.  If anyone finds photos of the cottages I would appreciate hearing from you very much
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: hagg1sr00ts on Wednesday 15 February 17 15:14 GMT (UK)
Please refer to Red Rows Plean post, This photo is at the bottom of Cadgers Loan, your railway cottages would be at the top of the road in centre. Nowadays the area at the top of the road is occupied by Plean Precast cement company, they are nearby to Plean Country Park. Plean House is in here but is in a pretty dilapidated state.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: pwl1951 on Wednesday 15 February 17 15:40 GMT (UK)
ERIC8751

Is it not Sink Cottages you are looking for? These were nearer to Bannockburn and next to the railway track. There is a photo of one of the Sink cottages in the post about "STEVENSON`S FROM BANNOCKBURN". On page 7.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: Eric8751 on Thursday 16 February 17 09:10 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your responses.  No, the Sink Cottages are not the one's I'm looking for.  The Railway Cottages were located at the entrance to Gartwinnie Farm as shown on the map in an earlier post.  There can be no doubt about this.  A railway line ran right past the entrance to the farm and a set of railway gates were located there.  My great grandfather, grandfather and mother all lived there in No 1 cottage and my great grandfather was the railway gatekeeper there in his later years - all this is verified by census records and valuation rolls.  Remnants of the railway gate posts are still there today (I took a Google Earth drive down Cadgers Loan to the entrance of Gartwinnie farm and saw them there but there is now no trace of the cottages).  I have old photos of my grandfather and mother with the gates in the background but no photo of the Railway Cottages themselves hence this post.  I have an RAF aerial photo of the area taken in 1946 which shows a structure at the location of the cottages shown on the map and after contacting Gartwinnie Farm, was advised they were there until about 1960 when I believe they were condemned and demolished (interesting from the Red Rows post that they were demolished in 1956).  As stated, the location of the Railway Cottages is not in question but I would like more information about their history and photos of them for my family records.  Shire/Council records and Stirling Archives may have information which I need to follow up.  Thanks again and regards
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 16 February 17 11:17 GMT (UK)
Presumably these LMS cottages were built by the Caledonian Railway?  ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: Eric8751 on Thursday 16 February 17 13:06 GMT (UK)
The Railway Cottages may have been built by the Caledonian Railway as the above map shows them located on the C. R. Plean Branch line. Wikipedia for "Scottish Central Railway" under subheading "Under the Caledonian Railway" states "...the Caledonian Railway acquired 112 route miles of line...(tracks and branches listed) ... and short branches at Plean". The amalgamation of the SCR with CR occurred in 1865 - I suppose it is possible the SCR built the cottages.   1925 and 1930 Valuation Rolls show the owners as the LMS. My great grandfather David Eadie Stevenson started work with the Caledonian Railways in 1891, worked only in Plean and lived in the Railway Cottages until he retired in 1930 from the LMS .  I expect the CR branch line, and therefore the cottages, would not have existed before the No 3 and 4 collieries were built in the area so this may be the determining factor.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: Eric8751 on Friday 17 February 17 09:35 GMT (UK)
The Railway Cottages - Plean owned by Caledonian Railway Co first appeared on Valuation Rolls in 1885. They did not appear in 1875 Valuation Rolls indicating they were built during this 10 year period.
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: hagg1sr00ts on Saturday 18 February 17 14:59 GMT (UK)
2 maps showing rail line owners and years. Sink Cottages info never offered in any posts by me.
Source of maps - Old Maps Online: https://appsto.re/gb/T13P8.i
Title: Re: Railway Cottages Plean
Post by: StewartM on Thursday 16 January 20 18:01 GMT (UK)
Good day,
Just read the string of communication re Railway Cottages from 3 years ago and just wanted to add to Eric8751 that interestingly enough My Grandfather (William Gebbie) was born in the same cottages in 1908. My great grandfather James Gebbie was also a railway surfaceman in 1908, at listed at the same address ”Railway Cottages Plean” He would have moved into that cottage after he between 1900 and 1908. So according to Eric8751 our grandfathers lived side by side at some point Depending on when they moved there.
You did say you were planning to travel from your home in Australia and make a visit to research your family. Did that happen?