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Title: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: B17_Fan on Tuesday 07 February 17 17:18 GMT (UK)
Can someone look up the marriage of James Poor/Poore and Martha Coles in the parish records please?
They married 1841 in the Alton Registration district. I am pretty sure they would've actually married in Newton Valence.
I really want to know what marthas parents names were

If anyone could do this for me, it would be much appreciated
Thankyou
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 07 February 17 17:29 GMT (UK)
Hi

If asking for somebody to check the parish records - you need to provide the quarter in which the marriage took place to narrow down any search together with the name of the church in which it took place

Only fathers names are shown on English marriage certs - not both parents

These are all the areas within the Alton RD

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/alton.html

Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 07 February 17 17:32 GMT (UK)
The marriage is Dec qtr 1841.

Newton Valence looks a good call for the marriage given that they were both there (Martha as a 20 yr old servant in James's household) in 1841, and he, by now widowed, was still there in 1851.

She was born in county per 1841.

Unfortunately Marriage Locator at http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/ cannot assist on the place of marriage.
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 07 February 17 17:39 GMT (UK)
Children born to the couple:

Harriet Poore mmn Coles, Jun qtr 1843 Alton (died Sep qtr 1843 Alton)
Maria Poore mmn Coles, Jun qtr 1846 Alton

Death of Martha Poore, Sept qtr 1850 Alton, aged 29.
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: B17_Fan on Tuesday 07 February 17 17:53 GMT (UK)
I would like to know marthas fathers name because i don't know her parents. Can't seem to pinpoint her birth either.

As avm228 said, They were married Dec Qtr 1841.
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: Little Nell on Tuesday 07 February 17 21:54 GMT (UK)
Have you considered the baptism in Empshott, which is not that far away.

Martha daughter of William & Dinah Coles on 22 April 1821

Nell
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: B17_Fan on Tuesday 07 February 17 22:10 GMT (UK)


Have you considered the baptism in Empshott, which is not that far away.

Martha daughter of William & Dinah Coles on 22 April 1821

Nell

I've not seen that in the baptism records. Could be. I'll look into it
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: janeh on Saturday 11 February 17 04:09 GMT (UK)
Why did you think that they would not have married in Newton Valence when they lived at Noar Hill at the time?
20 Nov.1841  James Poor, widower, of full age, lab. of Noar Hill, son of Joseph, lab. married
Martha Coles, spinster of full age of Noar Hill, daughter of William, lab.
Witnesses - George Hewett, Harriet Coles.

You are probably aware of the strange shape of Newton Valence parish and Noar Hill? Yours Jane
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: Little Nell on Saturday 11 February 17 20:48 GMT (UK)
Jane,

I think it was stated that Newton Valence was the most likely place.

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I am pretty sure they would've actually married in Newton Valence.

Great to have it confirmed  :)

Nell
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: janeh on Sunday 12 February 17 05:17 GMT (UK)
Dear Nell - many apologies - read it too fast. I have the Newton Valence parish registers on fiche if that helps. Yours Jane
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 12 February 17 20:23 GMT (UK)
I'm sure that B-17 (OP) appreciates the look-up  :)

Nell
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: B17_Fan on Monday 13 February 17 01:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Jane. I would be most appreciative if you could spare some time to have a look at the parish record for me.
No rush though.
Thanks
Title: Re: Alton Marriage look up please
Post by: janeh on Sunday 19 February 17 06:55 GMT (UK)
I am not sure which parish records you want searched.

The 1851 census shows James aged 40 together with children aged 17, 15 and 4 - which suggests that Martha was alive to give birth 4 years before. The only death for a Martha Poor/e in FreeBMD was in 1850 for the Alton district - which could be her. Sadly my fiche of Newton Valence burials are unreadable for that date so I can not get an age at death. You will need to go to the Record Office for this - if it is not clear there - they should let you see the original register.

That will give you an idea of when she was born - with a father named William - although we do know that she was 21+ at the marriage in 1841. If you can find the age at death - we could look for relevant baptisms? Yours Jane