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General => Technical Help => Topic started by: essexdavid on Sunday 05 February 17 18:22 GMT (UK)
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I have recently bought a new laptop and asked my computer techies to copy the PAF, version 5 family history from the old to the new machine. All appeared to be well until I found that "multimedia" , ie photos , had not been copied although the titles of the images were there. My previous laptop ran Windows 7 and the new one Windows 10. Would that be part of the problem ?
Is there any way to restore the images without the labour of doing it all by hand ?
I shall need a new project for the Spring !
David
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Assuming you mean Personal Ancestral File (PAF) from FamilySearch?
"FamilySearch will no longer offer PAF downloads or support after JULY 15, 2013"
"PAF will continue to work on all versions of Windows as of 2013, including Windows 8. Just be aware that it will no longer be supported or improved."
https://familysearch.org/paf
M
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I was aware that support was not available - it seems odd in that case that that all the text from the original copy has been transferred to a Windows 10 machine despite the message from Family Search.
I have a seved version on an external hard drive - would that install the missing images ?
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When you export a PAF file, there is a button to check to include multi-media. Sounds like this was not done.
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Many thanks Rosy, that could well be the answer. I shan't leave it to the techie guru next time.
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Hi
Assuming the old program was re-installed (you didn't mention)
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Did they export it using gedcom?
[On-spec Gedcom files do not contain any media, by definition.]
Did they transfer (just copy) the paf file?
If they did then copying the media folder may work, because the PAF file would not have lost the links to individual media elements.
If they selected an export without the media data then the exported file may not have the links to the individual media elements.
Ray
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I was aware that support was not available - it seems odd in that case that that all the text from the original copy has been transferred to a Windows 10 machine despite the message from Family Search.
I have a seved version on an external hard drive - would that install the missing images ?
If you have the images on the external Hard Drive all you have to do is copy the images to the relevant folder on the internal drive.
It sounds as if PAF has the image locations but the images are not in that location
Cheers
Guy
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Many thanks to Ray, Rosy and Guy. I'll set to and try the suggestions about reuniting the images with the individuals. I suppose in retrospect, I should have done the transfer myself !
David
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Hello :)
I use PAF alongside my other stuff.
However regarding transfer of images, I always do seperately.
Next to my PAF file on the desktop I have a folder with the images in and always keep them together.
So I think if you go to your old Laptop where the PAF was... and go into the PAF folder you will see the image file?!?! copy this onto disc or external hd or wotever :) and then pop into new laptop
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open up the file on laptop and make sure you KEEP it with the or in the PAF FOLDER
open up your PAF PROG and attempt to open a multimedia image... it will tell you its not there so ... give it directions to the new folder of images you have created. It will then ask if you want to import all multimedia from this folder and you say yes to next two questions. :)
Now that works as long as you remember to ALWAYS keep the folder with the PAF other wise it wont work. It will then transfer all directions to that folder :) so you dont have to do it individually
I hope you can understand what I mean, cos I am not very good at explaining, just come and sit here and I will show you :) :) :)
hopefully sorted now
xin
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Many thanks Xinia , I think I'll have to take up your suggestion of sitting next to you ! I've tried every way I know to find the "image file" in the original PAF but nothing comes up.
Nothing for it I think but to create a saved file of all the missing images to install on the "new" copy on the new laptop.
Having done that, I think I must then put everything onto a new FH programme before anything else is lost !
David
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David, why don't you just 'export' the gedcom file again from your original program, remembering to tick the box to include multi-media?
Transfer it to your new computer and then with the new program, 'import' the newly saved file.
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Thanks Rosy, I've just tried that and no images despite ticking the relevant box . Either I'm dim or the original programme just won't export images any more. >:(
David
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This may explain it better: Link the multimedia files. If the GEDCOM's creator attached pictures, sound or video, you'll have an extra step: Copy the picture files to your computer and make sure the links in your new family file still point to the pictures. Suppose the sender kept the images on drive C in a folder called Genealogy Pictures within the My Pictures folder. The links should work if you keep the pictures in an identically named folder at the same location.
If you click on a link to a picture in PAF and it can't find the image, the program will prompt you to locate the file. Then it will ask if you want to change the paths to all the multimedia links in the file to the new path you specified. Answer "yes." As long as you kept all the images in the same folder, the links will be updated correctly.
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This may explain it better: Link the multimedia files. If the GEDCOM's creator attached pictures, sound or video, you'll have an extra step: Copy the picture files to your computer and make sure the links in your new family file still point to the pictures. Suppose the sender kept the images on drive C in a folder called Genealogy Pictures within the My Pictures folder. The links should work if you keep the pictures in an identically named folder at the same location.
If you click on a link to a picture in PAF and it can't find the image, the program will prompt you to locate the file. Then it will ask if you want to change the paths to all the multimedia links in the file to the new path you specified. Answer "yes." As long as you kept all the images in the same folder, the links will be updated correctly.
that is what I meant -- but said in good old comprehensible language :) you clever thing ;D ;D ;D ;D
xin
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Rosy and Xinia, I appreciate your efforts and although it may be comprehensible, the images links are just not opening although if I look in my picture files, the individual images are there.
I'm just resigned to re-doing it manually - unfortunately, Queensland is a long way for me to come for a 1 to 1 tutorial ! And the last time I was there, my wife and I got "bogged" in a creek south of Cook Town !
thanks again
David
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OK so you say you can see your images in a seperate folder....
copy that to the desk top.. create a new folder put in the PAF files and the actual paf that you are working on
call the folder with the pics in a specific name..
NOW as long as that folder is in the same folder as your working PAF you should then be able to follow ringarosy instructions.
will do an image set for you
xin
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last pic
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looks crazy, but works for me ... :)
xin
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Do a test run. Create a new folder. Put a copy of one of your images into the new folder. Then, when you get the message that PAF can't find that image, give it the path to the newly created folder. Does that work?
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I've been off line for 2 or 3 weeks so sorry not to have thanked everyone for helpful advice especially latterly xinia and erato. I think I'm getting there but it's frustrating when images you know perfectly well are somewhere in the system don't pop up !
Thanks
David