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Title: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: rich73 on Wednesday 25 January 17 18:42 GMT (UK)
Hi guys
I am pretty desperate don't know which way to go. I have spent forever looking for My great great grandparents marriage their names are John Bowen b1842 and Mary Brookes b1845 as far as I know
They where born in Birmingham I think as stated on census
what I know
The first time either appear on a census is 1871 in Bangor Wales RG10; Piece: 5728; Folio: 4; Page: 2; GSU roll: 895818
Their first child Bertha Bowen was born in derby 1864 mothers maiden name Brooks
They lived in Dublin, Ireland we're their second child John was born in 1866
Two children born in Bangor Wales
The other children were born in Birmingham

John died Birmingham in 1909 and Mary in 1921
1911 census says married for 47 years RG14; Piece: 18063
I have not been able to go back any further as I don't know fathers names
Just feel like giving up
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 25 January 17 18:48 GMT (UK)
That 1871 entry shows him as John Bowen Jones

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Their first child Bertha Bowen was born in derby 1864 mothers maiden name Brooks

Shown on 1871 as Mary B B b Mansfield Notts??
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: rich73 on Wednesday 25 January 17 18:55 GMT (UK)
That 1871 entry shows him as John Bowen Jones

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Their first child Bertha Bowen was born in derby 1864 mothers maiden name Brooks

Shown on 1871 as Mary B B b Mansfield Notts??

Yes sorry says Bowen Jones but I've tried looking at Bowen, Jones and a mix of both still nothing
Its 100% the right record
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 25 January 17 18:58 GMT (UK)
Full 1871 entry to save others searching.  All dittoed as surname Jones

John Bowen Jones 29 tailor b Birmingham
Mary Bowen   27 b Birmingham
John Bowen   5 b Dublin
Mary B B 7 b Mansfield Notts
Charles B 11mths b Bangor
Rose A B 3weeks b Bangor
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:01 GMT (UK)
There is a birth registration on the GRO index for a John Bowen Jones March 1/4 1841 mother's maiden name Bowen, registration district  St James Clerkenwell and another registered Carmarthen Union district June 1/4 1841 mmn Nicholls
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: rich73 on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:02 GMT (UK)
1881  RG11; Piece: 3005; Folio: 103; Page: 51;GSU roll: 1341718.
1891  RG12; Piece: 2396; Folio: 92; Page: 20; GSU roll: 6097506
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:05 GMT (UK)
Births June qtr 1870 
Charles Edward   Bowen     Bangor    11b   576

GRO search - mmn = Brooks
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:08 GMT (UK)
Birth registration for Bertha is the surname Bowen registration district Mansfield 1864
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: rich73 on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:13 GMT (UK)
Birth registration for Bertha is the surname Bowen registration district Mansfield 1861

I have certs for Bertha mmn brooks, Rose Alice mmn brooks my own G grandmother was Florence Clara b1884 mmn Brookes
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:21 GMT (UK)
Info not needed.
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:34 GMT (UK)
Clutching at straws here but could it be Mary's surname that is different on the marriage registration.
On the same page FreeBMD  John Bowen and a Mary Brinsford June 1/4 1860 reg dist Birmingham vol 6d page 207
I took a look on the GRO index and couldn't see any births mmn Brinsford 1864 - 1871
Title: Re: G G Grandparents marriage help
Post by: rich73 on Wednesday 25 January 17 19:40 GMT (UK)
Clutching at straws here but could it be Mary's surname that is different on the marriage registration.
On the same page FreeBMD  John Bowen and a Mary Brinsford June 1/4 1860 reg dist Birmingham vol 6d page 207
I took a look on the GRO index and couldn't see any births mmn Brinsford 1864 - 1871