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Title: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Saturday 21 January 17 16:07 GMT (UK)

I have found an entry referring to Bishop's Transcripts, Plymouth for the baptism of a child, Joseph, father James, no surnames. This is as close as I have come to finding the birth of Joseph Powell, son of James. Could someone check this please? The baptism was 19th November 1851, might be St Andrews.
Thanks

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 21 January 17 16:37 GMT (UK)

The parents are James and Henrietta Gartrell

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 21 January 17 17:03 GMT (UK)

Is it the family who are in Whitchurch Canonicorum in 1861  :-\

Youngest son
POWELL, HENRY  JAMES     mmn SANSAM     
1860  Sept Quarter
BRIDPORT  Volume 05A  Page 369   

James Powell married Hannah Sansom Dec qtr 1857 Axminster RD

1861
James Powell   30 bn Hawkchurch
Hannah Powell   32 bn Uplyme
Joseph Powell   10 bn Plymouth
Henry James Powell   7 months bn Whitchurch Canonicorum
 

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Saturday 21 January 17 17:28 GMT (UK)

Thanks Hanes.
Rosie, yes that's them..
This the only reference I can find of Joseph. It's not critical, but annoying that I can't find him anywhere else.  ???

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 21 January 17 17:31 GMT (UK)

I am wondering whether he was James son or maybe Hannah's and not therefore a Powell.

Do you have that marriage certificate to confirm who their fathers were or have you found them on earlier census

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: DOB7 on Saturday 21 January 17 17:40 GMT (UK)

In 1851, a Hannah HALSON and a James SANSON are servants in Uplyme. (Might be relevant)

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Saturday 21 January 17 17:42 GMT (UK)

James and Hannah were married in1857. I have looked for Joseph under Powell and Sansom, Hannah's maiden name. James was in Hawkchurch in 1841 and 51, Hannah was in Axminster at the time of their marriage and in Uplyme in 1841. I don't know where she was in 1851, but she was in Uplyme in 1841.

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Saturday 21 January 17 17:43 GMT (UK)

DOB7
No, this isn't them.
Thanks

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: DOB7 on Saturday 21 January 17 18:43 GMT (UK)

A James SANSOM married Hannah HALSON or HALSOM Dec qtr 1851 Axminster regn district. A James SANSOM died in 1853 aged 33.
Is it possible that Hannah was a widow when she married James POWELL? Have you got her father's details from the 1857 marriage certificate?

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Saturday 21 January 17 18:45 GMT (UK)

Yes, her father's name is Thomas Sansom.

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 22 January 17 14:53 GMT (UK)

Quote from: DOB7 on Saturday 21 January 17 18:43 GMT (UK)

Is it possible that Hannah was a widow when she married James POWELL? Have you got her father's details from the 1857 marriage certificate?

The birth of Henry James Powell in 1860 gives mothers maiden name as Sansam.   James Powell married Hannah Sansom Dec qtr 1857 Axminster RD.
I would think that you need that marriage certificate to get details of their fathers just in case she had misunderstood the 'maiden name' question when registering the birthb

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Sunday 22 January 17 16:56 GMT (UK)

I have the marriage certificate and Hannah's baptism. She was a Sansom.

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 22 January 17 18:12 GMT (UK)

Quote from: poppyw on Sunday 22 January 17 16:56 GMT (UK)

I have the marriage certificate and Hannah's baptism. She was a Sansom.

Thank you for confirming that  ;D

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 22 January 17 18:40 GMT (UK)

I wonder if Uplyme Bastardy records have any information

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/46e70151-fa63-460a-a2a1-2fcaef9c8b9c

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Sunday 22 January 17 18:57 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the suggestion. I've a few I could look up! 😀

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 23 January 17 09:26 GMT (UK)

Quote from: poppyw on Sunday 22 January 17 18:57 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the suggestion. I've a few I could look up! 😀

 ;D   ;D   ;D

It seems more likely that Joseph was hers but who knows  ::)

Title: Re: baptism in Plymouth
Post by: poppyw on Monday 23 January 17 13:24 GMT (UK)

Another mystery to add to the list🙃
Oh well. Thanks for all your help.