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Title: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 06:08 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
I am trying to find some more information on Sarah Isabel Higginbotham who was born to Ann ? & John Higginbotham in 1819, she later married William Wallis/Wallace in 1841 and set sail to Australia as a free settler.
I am trying to find out any further information on Sarah.
Cheers
Mary
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 18 January 17 06:30 GMT (UK)
There is a family tree on Ancestry with the same details - except - it has her dying in Wexford in 1885.
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 06:42 GMT (UK)
No our Sarah married on 4 July 1841, Gorey Co Wexford and sailed on 29 August 1841 from Plymouth England aboard "William Jardine" with her new husband William Wallis, they were sponsored migrants by Messrs Ocely and Rodd of Bathurst NSW and were engaged to work for 2 years at wages of 20 pounds for William and 10 pounds for Sarah.
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 18 January 17 06:45 GMT (UK)
No our Sarah married on 4 July 1841, Gorey Co Wexford and sailed on 29 August 1841 from Plymouth England aboard "William Jardine" with her new husband William Wallis, they were sponsored migrants by Messrs Ocely and Rodd of Bathurst NSW and were engaged to work for 2 years at wages of 20 pounds for William and 10 pounds for Sarah.

Well, there are lots of incorrect Ancestry trees out there, and I have no connection. But that family tree has a Sarah Higginbotham marrying William Wallace (not Wallis) in Gorey on 4 July 1841.  And dying in Wexford in 1885. Tree is named "Taylor family tree".
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 18 January 17 07:02 GMT (UK)
What information do you have about Sarah and William after they arrived 1841?

What names, dates and place of birth do you have for their children?

Do you have death details for Sarah and William?

Or do you know nothing more after arrival 1841?
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 07:07 GMT (UK)
I have all the details of Sarah and William from when they arrived in Australia, what I am trying to research is pre 1841, brothers, sisters, parents etc
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 18 January 17 07:11 GMT (UK)
You are researching the origins of Sarah Isabel HIGGINBOTHAM.

All the information you have is useful. Can you give the names of the children please.

Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 07:19 GMT (UK)
William Joseph 25-8-1842 Bathurst NSW
John Blackdown 3-9-1844 Bathurst NSW
Sarah 1845 -1845 Bathurst
George 28-3-1847 Bathurst
Charles 1854 Bathurst
Elizabeth 16-3-1855 Bathurst
Archibald Spencer 19-11-1857 Bathurst
Sarah Jane 25-1-1863 Bathurst
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: LearyP on Wednesday 18 January 17 17:14 GMT (UK)
titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie if you search for alternate spelling higginbottom, see two, one is John Higginbottom Ballymenane Liskinfere Wexford which is located about 4 miles south of Gorey.
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 21:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you LearyP for this information, this could be her father..?
Is there anywhere where I can find birth/marriage/death information?
Cheers
Mary
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 18 January 17 21:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you LearyP for this information, this could be her father..?
Is there anywhere where I can find birth/marriage/death information?
Cheers
Mary

That depends on which foot they dug with, and you have not provided any details.
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 22:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Wexflyer
What details do you require?
Cheers
Mary
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 18 January 17 22:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Wexflyer
What details do you require?
Cheers
Mary

Their religion!
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: mary1170 on Wednesday 18 January 17 22:25 GMT (UK)
All baptisms and burials in Australia were Church of England
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 18 January 17 22:32 GMT (UK)
All baptisms and burials in Australia were Church of England

But what of the July 1841 marriage you referenced in Gorey - which denomination was that?

In any case, assuming you want what was then the United Church of England and Ireland, the relevant records are listed under Leskinfere at
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegistersTable.pdf (https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegistersTable.pdf)
If on the other hand they were Catholic, then the relevant parish is Camolin, but pre-1853 records are held under Ballyoughter, both available on NLI website.
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: LearyP on Thursday 19 January 17 12:40 GMT (UK)
There is an early reference to a Higginbottom in this document on page 2 and 8. St. Mogue's nowadays is a Church of Ireland church and cemetery in village of Ballycanew, Gorey, County Wexford. The vestry book appears to include many from a large area of north wexford.
www.hollygardens.com/hollingsw/StMoguesVestryBook.pdf  While I was researching the Cancelled Land, I noticed Higginbottom name. These books are now available online, input Higginbottom in the surname only and three occur for John Higginbottom, Gorey, Wexford

http://www.valoff.ie/en/Archives_Genealogy_Public_Office/
Title: Re: Sarah Isabel Higginbotham born 1819 Wexford
Post by: LearyP on Wednesday 25 January 17 12:35 GMT (UK)
I came across a reference to John Higginbottom yet again on the following listing from PRONI, which may be of interest to others too. It states that John Higginbottom was known to the Earl of  Courtown who was one of the biggest landlords in the Gorey area. The Courtown Estate papers reside in the National Library of Ireland.

http://www.dippam.ac.uk/ied/records/22293.pdf

See on list:
(61) J. SPENCER
          Wexford   Clogher      Gory          -/-/-                                [Gorey?]
His brother in Law, John Higginbottom has a family, and lives at Gory, in the County Wexford; is known to the Earl of Courtown

"The McCabe List": Early Irish in the Ottawa Valley

The listing which follows provides the signature or
mark, county, parish, townland of origin, number of
male and female children and names and addresses of
relatives in the homeland for some 700 mostly Irish
families who were in the vicinity of Bytown on 5 February 1829.

The reason the list was compiled is because it
was prompted by a printed questionnaire circulated by a
British parliamentary committee to the Irish who had
emigrated under the Honourable Peter Robinson several
years earlier. Critics in Ireland were charging that
the Robinson experiments amounted to " a system of
transportation and banishment, attended with privations
and misery". The committee asked the emigrants for
their opinion. Among the questions asked were: from
whence did you emigrate, what family had you with you,
and would you recommend a poor family to come out to
Upper Canada if the government advanced the passage
money, 100 acres of land, and provisions for a year,
on condition that the advance be repaid out of the
produce of the farm in annual instalments.
One of the questionnaires found its way to the
Irishmen working on the first sections of the Rideau
Canal near the new village of Bytown. The emigrants
approved the plan suggested in the government
questionnaire, and stated their willingness to
reimburse the government, in instalments, the cost of
sending their near relations out to join them. So the
information on the geographical origins of the signers
already in the colony and on the size of their families
was recorded in response to queries in the
questionnaire.
Conclusively the "McCabe List" is a remarkable
document, revealing much historical information about
the Irish population of this section of the Ottawa
Valley, and casting further light on the men who built
the Rideau Canal. It was found by John McCabe, a N.Ireland
genealogist, whilst researching in the Public Record
Office in England.  To the genealogist it is a unique
resource in which many will discover the only reference
to their ancestor's place of origin recorded on this
side of the Atlantic.