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Charles Alfred Rudge supposed drowned 1875,this is also on the grave stone. His wife Fanny Jane is also written on the stone but it is not clear if she also drowned at this time. There is only the date 1875 .I find no other death, or remarriage for her. On the UK death at sea thereare also 6 other people missing on the ship Fair Rover on this day.
Would there be any newspaper reports on this event perhaps.?
Thanks for any help
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I would imagine of there is a gravestone, then at there is a grave, so at least one of them would be buried there, even if there is mention "in memory" of the other who was lost at sea and therefore not actually buried there. If both were lost at sea - who is in the grave?
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FindMyPast has a female Rudge no first name or age given who drowned by wreck on 22.8.1875. The vessel was Fair Rover, number 56292. There is no mention of a man with a surname Rudge on that list, but on a GRO Marine Deaths Indices list a Charles Alfred Rudge age 26 is shown as died at sea, vessel Fair Rover (ref no.49) and beneath his name is (female) Rudge, no age given, (ref no. 82) died at sea vessel Fair Rover.
You should be able to order the death certificates from GRO by telephoning the Certificate Services Call Centre on +44 (0)300 123 1837 to place your order or write to Certificate Services at PO Box 2, Southport, Merseyside, PR8 2JD.
Lizzie
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Lloyd's List of 29 Dec 1875 has a notice asking for info on the "Fair Rover, Rudge, Baltimore to Newry reported to have sailed from Fortress Monroe on 24 Aug last. So Rudge was her captain. Still looking for more reports.....
Josey
ADDED~: Dundee Courier 31 Dec 1875 refers to the Fair Rover not having been reported since 24 Aug & believed to have sunk with Captain Rudge & the crew of ten men; no mention of a wife aboard.
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Thank you everyone. This has helped me immensely.
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I see they'd only married that year
Marriages Jun 1875
JACKSON John Cheltenham 6a 695
Neville Selina Cheltenham 6a 695
RUDGE Charles Alfred Cheltenham 6a 695
SMITH Fanny Jane Cheltenham 6a 695
Fanny possibly remarried
Marriages Mar 1882
PARSONS Charles John Croydon 2a 253
RUDGE Fanny Jane K M Croydon 2a 253
Scrub that in the light of LizzieW's death at sea of a female Rudge from the Fair Rover in Aug 1875.
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The last Crew Agreement for FAIR ROVER official number 56292 should be available from NMM Greenwich.
http://www.rmg.co.uk/national-maritime-museum/caird-library/crew-lists-agreements-official-logs-request-form
Lloyd's Captains Register Held by London Metropolitan Archives should have details of his seagoing career from the time he obtained his Mates Certificate.
It would not be uncommon for Captains wives to sail with their husbands especially newly weds.
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Thank you for helping
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An unrelated request;
I have searched FindMyPast in the past for deaths at sea, but not found anything of interest.
However, after reading these posts, I have searched again, and found a potential death that is of interest to me.
The ship was the 'Calliope' 25238 the year 1871. Port of departure 'Hammett St'; description of voyage E J. from BT153
How do I find out any more information from Lloyds list of 1871?
(A search on the internet came up with 2 possible wrecks a) it was on its way back from calcutta, or b), that it was wrecked on a sand bank outside of Liverpool Port.
What I would like to know is
a) An earlier post mentioned Lloyds list; so how does one find anything from this?
b) Where is Hammet St, and what does EJ mean
c) how do I order a death certificate from this?
I have been looking for the death if my Great Grandfather, who is rumoured to have died at sea. This is the right last name and age, but wrong initial, but it has occurred to me that he may have given a false name.
I should add, that so far, no deaths have been found anywhere, so this is just a remote possibility at present.
regards
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see above - discovered the Calliope went missing on 23 April1871 from Calcutta to New York.
I guess then, to get a death cert, I ring the number given in an earlier post !
regards
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All records of my great aunt stopped after her marriage. This January someone posted a gravestone photo on Ancestry and they sent me a photo hint.
I contacted some private members including the person who posted the photo, but got no reply.
So having had a very good and helpful experience with Rootschat in the past, I posted my questions on this forum.
You will find a lot of excellent help here.