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Title: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) and Father Thomas Goulden (died 1839)
Post by: squinn5 on Tuesday 10 January 17 11:01 GMT (UK)

Hi

I have today received the marriage for John Todd & Ann Maria Goulden. It shows Ann’s father as Thomas Goulden – Carpenter they were married at Westminster St Margarets Middlesex in 1840 **note have information on John, so am looking for Ann**

One of the witnesses is a Thomas Edward Goulden.

I have done a search for Ann’s birth (according to the 1841, 1851 & 1861 census she was born in Middlesex, England around 1818). I haven’t been able to find a baptism on Ancestry, family search or freereg for Ann as yet.

What I did find though on Ancestry (Bishop's Transcripts)

Thomas Edward Goulden Baptism 1815 at St Margaret's Westminster – father listed as Carpenter. Mother Ann

Eliza baptism 1827 at St John the Evangelist – father listed as builder. Mother Ann

Mary baptism 1830 at St John the Evangelist – father listed as carpenter & builder. Mother Ann

George baptism 1824 at St John the Evangelist - (surname listed as Goolden) but the image clearly says Goulden. Father listed as builder. Mother Ann

So based on the above, could it that I have found Ann Maria's parents and some of her siblings?

There is also a marriage for a Thomas Goulden to a Ann Blackburn in 1807 at Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England. Not sure if that would be the correct one though.

Regards

Sandra

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 10 January 17 11:54 GMT (UK)

It does look highly likely that these are siblings of Ann Maria.   Maybe she was christened in a parish which does not come under London Metropolitan Archives but under Westminster Archives which I believe are not online.

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 10 January 17 13:26 GMT (UK)

There is a record of baptism for Ann Maria GOULDEN on FindMyPast, born 1818, baptised 1821 at St Margaret, Westminster.  Ancestry seems to have given 1821 a miss for baptisms at St Margaret  ::)

Debra  :)

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 10 January 17 13:29 GMT (UK)

Snap Debra:)

Ann Maria was baptised at Westminster St Margarets.

Born 15th March baptised 10th June 1821. Daughter of Thomas and Ann GOULDEN of Dorset Street.
Fathers Occ: Carpenter.

Claire

Image on F M P

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: squinn5 on Tuesday 10 January 17 18:09 GMT (UK)

Hi

Thankyou for the baptism of Ann, makes me think though, on the marriage Ann is listed as of Full Age, if born in 1821, this would only make her 19 (married in Jan 1840) - so would full age be 18 by then or would it still be 21?

I'll do some more research during the week for the parents and siblings in particular Thomas Edward (Brother)

Thanks.

Sandra

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 10 January 17 18:16 GMT (UK)

Full age would have been 21

(it went down to 18 in my lifetime!)

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 10 January 17 18:40 GMT (UK)

I'm so sorry - the image actually says she was born 1818 but she was not baptised until 1821

A senior moment - sorry again  :-\

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) married John Todd 1840
Post by: squinn5 on Tuesday 10 January 17 18:51 GMT (UK)

Thank you Claire

That fits better so born 15th March 1818.

Thanks again

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) and Father Thomas Goulden (died 1839)
Post by: squinn5 on Wednesday 11 January 17 07:27 GMT (UK)

Hi again

I found Thomas Goulden's will today (died 1839), will dated July 1836.

Can someone let me know what the second daughter's name here is:

One is Charlotte Trigger and the other I can't read but further down he appoints his son in law Edward can't read surname, but it's the same surname as the second daughter.

Further down the will he also lists his four other daughters, Eilzabeth, Ann Maria, Eliza and Maryann. Find it strange that two females are named Elizabeth & Eliza. Eliza born 1827 died in 1837. Haven't found the baptism for Elizabeth yet but in the 1851 census she is showing to be 37.

Thanks

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) and Father Thomas Goulden (died 1839)
Post by: Lily M on Wednesday 11 January 17 08:37 GMT (UK)

I think it says Hannah Frostik

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) and Father Thomas Goulden (died 1839)
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 11 January 17 14:27 GMT (UK)

I'll go with that too :)

Hannah GOULDEN married Edward FROSTICK 9 June 1833.

Charlotte and Thomas Edward were witnesses.

Claire

Title: Re: Ann Goulden (born Middlesex about 1818) and Father Thomas Goulden (died 1839)
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 11 January 17 14:34 GMT (UK)

St Margarets Westminster

Elizabeth born 2 August 1810 bapt. 16 August 1812 daughter of Thomas, by Ann.

Claire