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Title: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: Leo Kearon on Wednesday 04 January 17 10:05 GMT (UK)
I was noticing a James Sempill M.D, buried in St. Patrick's Gateway Centre along with his wife Anna and his granddaughter Nicholona. He was an Alderman of Limerick and served in the Waterford Independents 2nd Regiment. He died 10th June 1806. His grave was erected by his daughter Elizabeth Anderson.

I noticed there was a James Sempill who served as Mayor of Waterford in 1797 and again in 1799. I am wondering if these could be the same person, given the name but I can't find the connection
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 04 January 17 16:59 GMT (UK)
Newspaper says James Sempill who died 1806 was an Alderman
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/s.pdf
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: Leo Kearon on Wednesday 04 January 17 17:39 GMT (UK)
I know that and I already mentioned that in my post. I am wondering if Mayor James Sempill of Waterford is the same person.
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 04 January 17 19:54 GMT (UK)
I know!! Not what you asked but James, of Waterford and Dublin!

SEMPILL George Hatch entered TCD 1775 age 16 s/o James, Medicus Waterford

SEMPILL George Hatch  s/o James Dublin entered Oxford  Alumni Oxoniensis (1715-1886) volume 4.djvu/45
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 04 January 17 20:29 GMT (UK)
Wills
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 05 January 17 00:22 GMT (UK)
His daughter Elizabeth's husband was John they married 1791.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/dm/IRE_DIOC_007246539_00411.pdf
which is probably of no use to you.
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 05 January 17 00:41 GMT (UK)
His death was reported in the Limerick Chronicle
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/s.pdf
Only says he was an Alderman, you would expect it would say former Mayor, if it was the same man.
Of course that is only a one line transcript there could be more.
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 05 January 17 01:09 GMT (UK)
Yes there is an obit in newspaper but it doesn't answer the question so I didn't bother with it.

The Wills possibly have the answer.
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: Leo Kearon on Thursday 05 January 17 09:44 GMT (UK)
His death was reported in the Limerick Chronicle
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/s.pdf
Only says he was an Alderman, you would expect it would say former Mayor, if it was the same man.
Of course that is only a one line transcript there could be more.

That's where I learned he was an alderman, granted given it is a Limerick newspaper they might not have bothered with  any non-local details.
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: gaffy on Friday 06 January 17 11:03 GMT (UK)
The following obituary is a bit strange if he was mayor.

The Caledonian Mercury of 23 June 1806 carried it, it was a fulsome tribute to 'James Sempill, Esq. M.D.' who died 'at an advanced age' in his house in the Mall, Waterford, it confirms that he was 'father-in-law to our much respected countryman, John Anderson, Esq. of Fermoy' and describes James as 'one of the Aldermen of the Corporation of Waterford' (I think the Alderman references in this topic so far have been to Alderman of Limerick?). There are bits of glowing testimony about his life, which the inhabitants of Waterford witnessed 'for upwards of 40 years'.

But it doesn't mention that he was mayor.

Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: hallmark on Friday 06 January 17 11:11 GMT (UK)
1799 - James Sempill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Waterford#1700-1799
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 06 January 17 12:15 GMT (UK)
October 3, 1797 - Dublin Evening Post - Dublin, Dublin, Republic of Ireland

Friday James Sempill,Esq. M.D. was sworn into the office of Mayor of Waterford....

Maureen
Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: gaffy on Friday 06 January 17 15:05 GMT (UK)

October 3, 1797 - Dublin Evening Post - Dublin, Dublin, Republic of Ireland

Friday James Sempill,Esq. M.D. was sworn into the office of Mayor of Waterford....

Maureen


Those letters M.D. up the ante a good bit, what are the chances there were 2 James Sempills and both of them doctors? Slim I would think.

But what a weird obituary not to mention that...

Title: Re: Mayor James Sempill/Semple
Post by: Leo Kearon on Monday 09 January 17 10:42 GMT (UK)

October 3, 1797 - Dublin Evening Post - Dublin, Dublin, Republic of Ireland

Friday James Sempill,Esq. M.D. was sworn into the office of Mayor of Waterford....

Maureen


Those letters M.D. up the ante a good bit, what are the chances there were 2 James Sempills and both of them doctors? Slim I would think.

But what a weird obituary not to mention that...

It is strange, the chances of two doctors with the same name living in the same city but also being part of city council seems quite slim. It is strange that the obituary doesn't mention he was mayor  just his role as an Alderman, still learning he is an alderman of Waterford does help with the local connection.

Maybe he was an alderman at the time of his death hence it was mentioned in the obituary.

Still the fact they might be the same person is very interesting