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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: lbw on Thursday 29 December 16 06:17 GMT (UK)
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I believe I am descended from John Whitten and Sarah Wolsey who were married on July 1858 in Mullaghbrack Parish Church.
Does anyone have any information on either family?
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Hi,
In 1874 John and Sarah had a son, John Alexander, born in the area around the Lisburn Road in Belfast.
Regards
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There was at least one other son- William born 1869 Belfast.
Marriage extract lists both fathers- Robert Whitten & George Woolsey
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZS-ZZK
The certificate will eventually be available on Irish Genealogy website (free)
? Will mentions a son John-
The Will of Robert Whitten late of Cargans in the County of Armagh Farmer deceased who died 2 January 1865 at same place was proved at Armagh by the oath of Robert Bennett of Cargans aforesaid Farmer one of the Executors.
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Location of Cargans (adjoining Mullabrack townland)-
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/ballymore/cargans/
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Daughter Anne born 1864:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03599/2327359.pdf
Son John Alexander #1 born 1867 (died 1870):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03477/2277715.pdf
Daughter Sarah Ann born 1872:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03251/2191594.pdf
Daughter Jane born 1876:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03047/2117305.pdf
Daughter Alice born 1879:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02910/2066255.pdf
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Possibly several other children born between the 1858 marriage and 1863 (pre-civil registration).
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A 24 year old son Robert Whitten was married to a Violet Dornan in 1883:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10946/8000568.pdf
Another son George Whitten was married to a Mary Dawson in 1885:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10855/5963713.pdf
Just a possibility to note, until it can be ruled in or out, of a marriage for son William Whitten to a Mary Ann Torrans in 1894:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10576/5852994.pdf
Likewise a possibility of a marriage for daughter Sarah Whitten to a William Duke in 1898:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10423/5795220.pdf
And a John Alexander Whitten married a Margaret Allely in 1915, again a possibility:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09827/5568085.pdf
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The address given for both John Whitten and Sarah Wolsey at the time of their marriage in 1858 was Marlacoo (presumably ... Beg or More in Mullaghbrack parish), the occupation of the groom's father (Robert) was given as mason, the bride's father (George) was a farmer. A Robert Whitten born on 27 March 1859 was baptised in Clare Presbyterian Church on 1 May that year, parents were John Whitten and Sarah Wolsey of Marlacoo.
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... The address given for both John Whitten and Sarah Wolsey at the time of their marriage in 1858 was Marlacoo (presumably ... Beg or More in Mullaghbrack parish) ...
Griffiths Valuation shows a Robert Whitten in Marlacoo More, the print date was 1863.
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Now into speculative territory, a Robert Whitten given as born on 14 December 1832 was baptised in Clare Presbyterian Church on 16 January 1833, the parents were Robert Whitten and May Ann McMaghin of Marlacoo.
Edited to add:
Also, a Robert Whitten of Marlacoo, the son of Robert Whitten a stonemason, married a Susan Willis of Marlacoo (father William a farmer) in Ahorey Presbyterian Church on 27 December 1855, maybe a brother of John.
There was also a marriage on 22 December 1853 in Mullabrack Church of Ireland of an Isabella Whitten of Marlacoo to a Charles Houston, her father was given as Robert Whitten, a mason.
And a marriage on 8 December 1862 in Mullabrack Church of Ireland of an Alice Whitten of Marlacoo to a Joseph McClean, her father was given as Robert Whitten, a mason.
And a marriage on 6 April 1863 in Ahorey Presbyterian Church of a William Whitten of Marlacoo to a Caroline Walker, his father was given as Robert Whitten, a stone mason.
And a marriage on 6 April 1864 in Ahorey Presbyterian Church of a James Whitten of Marlacoo to a Sarah Jane Wylie, his father was given as Robert Whitten, a stone mason.
There's clearly a cluster of Whittens (and Wolseys/Woolseys) in the more general area (eg. go look at the 1901 and 1911 censuses and PRONI Will Calendars), however two indicators for your Whitten line so far are the location Marlacoo and the occupation stonemason.
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The Belfast Newsletter of 19 June 1888: WHITTEN - June 17, suddenly, at my residence, 41, William Street, Portadown, Robert Whitten, of Brisbane, Queensland, eldest son of the late Robert Whitten, Marleycoo, aged 55 years. His remains will be removed for interment in Clare burying-ground, this (Tuesday) aternoon, at two o'clock. Friends will please acccept this intimation. WILLIAM WHITTEN.
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Many thanks for your many detailed responses to my query regarding my ancestors.
You have found more information than I thought was possible. It will take me some time to absorb all this information so I might return with more questions. Your have been much appreciated.
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Hi, I was re-reading these posts about Robert Whitten and his son John Whitten who married Sarah Wo(olsey). The Robert Whitten of Marlecoo (many spellings of place) is a completely different but contemporary individual to Robert Whitten of Cargans d 1865 and left a Will. Robert Whitten of Cargans did have a son John Whitten but his wife most probably was Sarah Annett also from Cargans. The deceased son in the Will, William Whitten was married to Lucy (of the Redpath family also of Cargans). We have many DNA matches and shared matches with the family of Robert Whitten of Cargans. Regards Heather Cook
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Regarding an earlier post above, I am looking for the baptism of William Whitten who was born c1842 in Marlacoo Mullabrach, son of Robert Whitten and Mary Ann McMahon. Also the marriage and baptism of his parents, if possible. The post indicated that this would be in Clare Presbyterian Church. Not sure if I can access these records. I do have William's marriage to Caroline Walker on 6.4.1863.
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Welcome to RootsChat, Rory :)
I do have William's marriage to Caroline Walker on 6.4.1863.
Here's the URL link to the marriage for others:
William Whitten married Caroline Walker - 6 April 1863 - Ahorey Presbyterian Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1863/09642/5496536.pdf
Mullaghbrack (ONeilland West portion) civil parish
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/mullaghbrack-oneilland-west-portion/
Marlacoo More townland
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/mullaghbrack-oneilland-west-portion/mullaghbrack/marlacoo-more/
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Thank you for the links. I do use that website and it doesn't include the church I am looking for. I already have the marriage records for William Whitten and his siblings (one of whom is the person in the original topic of this thread). I am looking for William's pre civil registration church baptism and marriage of his parents Robert Whitten & Mary Ann McMohan (or Maghin as indicated above). They are definitely the right parents. This is my first post. Not sure if my query is clear and also whether I should have started a new topic on the beginners' board. Please advise. Thank you.