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Title: richard herbert prince
Post by: irvine 1805 on Friday 23 December 16 11:26 GMT (UK)
Richard was a merchant in Liverpool and Wirral.

Old family portrait mentions him but nothing else. Anyone with local knowledge help?

many thanks
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: chempat on Friday 23 December 16 11:38 GMT (UK)
What is the age of the portrait, to give an approximate vintage?
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: irvine 1805 on Friday 23 December 16 11:43 GMT (UK)
hi chempat

I reckon anywhere from 1870- 1890 it is not very clean
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: mazi on Friday 23 December 16 11:49 GMT (UK)
There is a Richard h prince in the 1881 census in Oxton,  Cheshire. merchant shipowner,  married to Isabel,
Possible two children and servants

Mike
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 23 December 16 11:53 GMT (UK)
Baptism: 25 Dec 1841 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Herbert Prince - [Child] of Richard Prince & Matilda
Abode: Gloucester St
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: Tho. Halton Curate
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: mazi on Friday 23 December 16 11:54 GMT (UK)
If you think this is him it might be an idea to modify your title to include shipowner, there are some shipping experts on roots chat who may notice the question.

Mike
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: chempat on Friday 23 December 16 11:55 GMT (UK)
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Richard Herbert Prince
Age   22
Marriage Date:   6th October 1864 at St. John'S, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Father:   Richard Prince
Spouse:   Isabel White
FHL Film Number:   2104341
Reference ID:   item 8 p 31

What sort of information are you after?
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 23 December 16 11:56 GMT (UK)
Richard Herbert Prince of Kings Gap Road, Hoylake, Cheshire  Merchant died 13th Feb 1894. Probate, London 14th March to Isobel Prince widow. Effects £7790 14s 5d
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: irvine 1805 on Friday 23 December 16 12:00 GMT (UK)
thank you all. I will discuss this with some family members over Christmas dinner. I am hoping to find out more from them.
I suspect the merchant and shipowner occupations probably confirm it is the right man.

thank you again
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 23 December 16 12:01 GMT (UK)
1891
9 Mount Pleasant, Oxton
Richard Prince   Head 49 Fire Clay Goods Manufacturer
Isabel Prince   Wife 46
Edith French   Daughter 24
Alfred French   Son in Law 23 Timber Merchant
Richard J French   Grandson 11/12
Amy White   Sister in law 50 Living on own means
Susannah Davies Servant 30
Mary Murray   Servant 21
Amy Millington   Servant 16

RG/12/2892/51/38
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 23 December 16 12:06 GMT (UK)
1881
9 Mount Pleasant
Richard H. Prince Head 39 born LiverpoolMerchant ship owner
Isabel Prince   Wife 36 born Egremont, Cheshire
Edith Prince   Daughter 15 born Oxton
Amy White   Visitor 40 born Liverpool
Frederic W. Prince Nephew 18 born Flintshire
Martha Davies   Servant 23
Hannah Taylor   Servant 30

RG/11/3588/2/4
Title: Re: richard herbert prince
Post by: irvine 1805 on Friday 23 December 16 12:38 GMT (UK)
thank you