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Hi
Looking for any information (prior to her marriage in Ryhope, County Durham, England in 1873), for:
Rebecca Dewart born on the 12th November 1848 (according to 1939 register) in Hillsborough, Down, Ireland.
Her father is named as Thomas Dewart on her marriage certificate.
Can anybody find her baptism, or any trace of her prior to 1873.
Thank you
Sue Roberts
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To find a baptism you'll need to know what religion the family might have been (not all church records are online or even survive).
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from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
Dewart Rebecca Sunderland 10a 960
Nicholson George Sunderland 10a 960
The earlier census is 1871 no trace of George or Rebecca in Durham or elsewhere. if he the later census 1881 shows the family growing, George b Kent was a coachman
Over in Ireland, there are Dewart eg see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/D/DenDey.htm but no obvious Rebecca Dewart
Spelling variations inc Deward and Duart, so this could be a relation
William DUART . Hillsborough son of William Duart ; married Jane Neilson 10 Nov 1854 CR sse
but Hillsborough parish has Annahilt parish to theSW
I tried familysearch.org, emeraldancestors, and ancestryireland without success but didn’t check thoroughly variant spelling
there are entries in Ireland census 1901where there are DEWART LIVING in
Small Park (Hilleborough, Down)this adjoins hillsborough itself
Tullynore (Ballyworphy, Down) Ballyworphys is an adjoining toenland also a district name in censusold nameee http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=11183
Bingo on GenesReunited but you need to join to get a peep at the trees
Rebecca Dewart 1849 Ireland ... Michael
George Dewart 1848 Tullynore, Hillsboro... DAVID
Joseph Dewart 1838 Tullynore, Hillsboro... DAVID
At PRONI under wills there is Probate of the Will of John Dewart late of Tullynore County Down Farmer who died 10 May 1896 granted at Belfast to James Morrison of Edenticullo said County and George Scott of Tullymore Farmers.
I have run out of time, but I think that’s all I can offer
goodluck onwards.
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Thank you so much.. that is fabulous and I very much appreciate the information you have found
Sue
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Hello,
My grandparents were the name of Dewart from Hillsborough but originally came from Tullynore.
William
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Keepcalmwill, delighted you have joined in, well Tullynore is all of 2 miles SE of Hillsborough on the Annahilt Road, so it sounds like you are not a walker exactly like me. Rebecca , William will know where some of the old homesteads are, whereas I live in England and
try http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/hillsborough-parish.php#. William may be know better Small Park or Lisburn St in Hillsborough itself see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
I had another look around http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/hillsborough-parish.php#.WPRuRVKZMwS
Duart, J.-Townland: Tullymore Year: 1830-Hillsborough-Down-
Duart, Robert-Townland: Magheralin Year: 1830-Hillsborough-Down-
Duart, S.-Townland: Tullymore Year: 1830-Hillsborough-Down-
Duart, Thomas-Townland: Cabra Year: 1830-Hillsborough-Down-
others live in Donacloney-Down, 1834-Saintfield –Down, and Portglenone-Antrim
Tullymore above is just a variant spelling for Tullynore townland
33 years later
from Griffiths valuation 1863 see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/i
Duart Robert Hillsborough MAGHERADARTIN map ref 6
Duart William Hillsborough BALLYWORFY map ref 23
Duart John Hillsborough TULLYNORE map ref 17
Duart Thomas Hillsborough TULLYNORE map ref 18
what happened to Cabra and Magheralin
to look the above up Tullynore sites, use a slider to change to modern map to locate existing roads then look up modern google map Edenticullo Road, then branch off going down Clogher road, then start looking looking NE before the road bends sharply to go SW. there are 5 trees surrounding what looks what has been a building and that could be 17 and 18. One of the four will be the oldest, your family tree and William might know anyway.
however a Duart onename study exists, starting with John Duart, b. 1784 in Hillsborough, County Down, Northern Ireland who immigrated to Canada
Read more at http://one-name.org/name_profile/duart/#EEje4lEoLC06CtBi.99 and contact Deborah Hershey
Good luck and enjoy family history I think the family were mainly Church of Ireland for surviving church records see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/PHOTOSwords/HillsboroughAll.htm
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My Robert Dewart was born Hillsborough, Cty Down c1842/44. He went to Sunderland and married Barbara Haugh. Roberts Father was Thomas Dewart. Roberts daughter Margaret Alice Dewart was my Grandmother on Dads side. She married John Richardson Meynell in Sunderland.
I am just starting to follow up on my Irish Dewarts now that there are more records online to try to confirm dates.
I don't have a Rebecca Dewart or any other Irish born Dewarts and it's been a few years since I have really looked closely at my records but I have a fair amount of information on the Dewarts of Sunderland. It could be possible that Rebecca might be Roberts sibling. I need to look more closely at this though.
There are also Dewarts in Kent.
I have a Dewart connection in NE England who is related to Roberts lineage and is my second cousin.
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1863 from http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/i
Duart Robert Down Hillsborough Map Ref MAGHERADARTIN 6
Duart William Down Hillsborough Map Ref BALLYWORFY 23
Duart John Down Hillsborough Map Ref TULLYNORE 17
Duart Thomas Down Hillsborough Map Ref TULLYNORE 17
you can look up each for detail of homestead and land rented or owned. and an 1860ish map that shows boundary of property and outline of buildings Griffiths has a slight reputation of standardizing names.. However Stewart or Stuart might mean a religious spelling background or the enumerators.
The Valuation revision books exist online at PRONI Belfast and might show departure or death of these 4 above individuals at PRONI
examples https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/SearchResults.aspx the file reference doesn’t copy from website
Ballyworfy - Ballyworfy Hillsborough Down 1866 1879
Ballyworfy - Ballyworfy Hillsborough Down 1880 1892
Ballyworfy - Ballyworfy Hillsborough Down 1893 1914
Ballyworfy - Ballyworfy Hillsborough Down 1915 1929
example
Current PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/20/5A (1866 - 1879)
William duart is there
Tullynore is now spelt Tullymore
Tullymore - Tullymore Hillsborough Down 1866 1879
Tullymore - Tullymore Hillsborough Down 1880 1892
Tullymore - Tullymore Hillsborough Down 1893 1914
Tullymore - Tullymore Hillsborough Down 1915 1929
have run out of time sorry
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Current PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/20/5A (1866 - 1879)
Thomas Duart Plot 18 in Tullymore is crossed and added onto Johns Plot17 but the date is not given so some time between 1866-1879
The sunderland 1871 &1881 census might hold clues see below
freebmds has pre 1891 census death that could link up with 1891 census entry for
Thomas Dewart b~1818 died Jun 1879 Thomas 61 Sunderland 10a 309 freebmd
Agnes Dewart b1809 ireland widow with daughter Mary b 1861 Ireland works in paper mill address Spelter Work Road. 81 census So aneighbour if not granny living nearby etc
Sunderland Dewarts show up in
1891 census combinedwith other freebmds
Street Spelter Work Road, Hendon Ward Sunderland Durham
Robert Dewart b~1843 Gas House Labourer died jun 1915 Sunderland m Barbara XXXXXX b~1842 Durham coincidence Barbara b1856 died 1922 Sunderland
children
Robert Dewart b 1865 Durham Fireman if not coincidence died dec 1922 same time as mother
Eliza Dewart b~1872 Durham
Elizabeth Dewart b~1875 Durham Occupation Paper Sheater
Thomas Dewart b~1876 england if Thomas W b1875 in freebmds
James Dewart b~1879 Durham
John Dewart b~1881 Durham
familysearch.org has Robert Dewart b~1840 Death Date 1869 Event Place Lisburn, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year 1869 Registration District Lisburn
note Lisburn is really co antrim but as a district registration area was much larger
Ros Davies Co Down has http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/D/DenDey.htm#der.
George DEWART . Hillsborough husband of Ann Cairns; father of John b. 11 Jul 1874 CR
J. DUART . Hillsborough of Tullynore; executor in the will of Henry Scott in 1837 IIW # 59105
J. DEWART . Hillsborough gatekeeper of Downshire Demesne in 1910 POD
Joseph DEWART . Hillsborough a warden at Hillsborough Castle in 1910 POD
William DEWART . Hillsborough a labourer ; convicted at Downpatrick gaol in Lent 1820 of stealing a great coat and received 7 years transportation to Australia; on board ' Almorah', arrived in Sydney 22 Dec 1820; married Honorah Doody/ Dowdy 3 Feb 1832 in Sydney DCM/PD; NWD
William DUART . Hillsborough son of William Duart ; married Jane Neilson 10 Nov 1854 CR
I think thats all I can offer you, hoping others join in
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I think the James Morrison in the will is my great grandfather. The family lived in Edenticullo for over 100 years although some went back and forward to Jefferson in Iowa.
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george dewart born c 1848 and died non 1914 married agnes Cairns 1869 of Drumlough They had 13 children She was the daughter of John cairns and Margaret Bigham. Thanks lnr
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Hoping to get a response from Sue Roberts regarding Rebecca Dewart. I am in contact with my DNA matches with Rebecca. Rebecca is sister to my Robert Dewart bn Hillsbrough County Down. Would love to collaborate with you and introduce you to other Dewart family, if you are willing.
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Hi Rebecca Yes that will be fine. I am DNA match with Will Dewart. My Great great grandfather William Cairns b. abt 1847 sister Agnes married George Duart/ Dewart. Their brother John Cairns also went to Sunderland. whom I think William may have visited before he came to nz 1874 . Thanks lnr
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Hi Inr, I haven’t yet found a connection with the George Dewart family but I am working with a Dewart friend and George is his family. We are trying to connect that link between George and my Robert, Rebecca and others
He isn’t a member of Rootschat so what is the best way to link you both?
George was his Grandfather/Great Grandfather from memory and he went to the US.
I have done DNA but he hasn’t. I do have two DNA matches with Rebecca’s line and 1 other match from the line of my James Dewart who married Sarah Metcalf - even though we don’t converse lol. Some people just don’t seem to want to do this for some reason, but she has connected with me and doesn’t talk - or respond if I ask a question.
I accept her as I have two cousins who do talk if that makes sense.
I’ve tested on both FTDNA and 23andme. If you’re on these two sites, let me know and I will check and get back to you. Great to hear from another Dewart. Cheers clemmie
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Just adding these links for others-
george dewart born c 1848 and died non 1914 married agnes Cairns 1869 of Drumlough They had 13 children…
George DUARET married Agnes Cairns on 20 August 1869 at Drumlough Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11426/8197444.pdf
1901 census
House 8 in Tullynore (Ballyworphy, Down)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ballyworphy/Tullynore/1240640/
1911 census
House 8 in Tullynore (Ballyworphy, Down)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Ballyworphy/Tullynore/249728/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002256638/ (looks like they had 10 children, 9 still living)
PRONI Will Calendars - https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Administration of the Estate of George Dewart late of Tullynore Hillsborough County Down Farmer who died 28 November 1914 granted at Belfast to Agnes Dewart the Widow
Date of Grant : 2 August 1916
Effects : £117 15s. 0d.
George Dewart's death record - 29 November 1914 at Tullynore. His son James Dewart was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05291/4470799.pdf
Agnes Dewart's likely death - https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
16th June 1931 72 Female Lisburn
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From 1911 census-
House 8 in Tullynore (Ballyworphy, Down) (reply #14).
Grandchildren entered on Household Return (Form A)-
George Dewart born 17 July 1903 in Belfast, Father George, MMN Fisher
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01861/1725376.pdf
James Dewart born 6 July 1904.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01819/1711888.pdf
Eva Wilhelmina Dewart born 25 October 1905.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01765/1695096.pdf
No record for Joseph Dewart born approximately 1907.
Parent's marriage-
George Dewart to Sarah Ann Fisher on 23 June 1903 at Willowfield Parish Church, Belfast. Fathers George Dewart (farmer) and James Fisher (Painter).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10233/5724173.pdf
George Dewart in 1901 census
House 66 in Templemore Street (Pottinger, Down).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Templemore_Street/1262636/
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Hi Rebecca,
I just signed up on the RootsChat site and read your notes. George Dewart and Agnes Carnes are my direct ancestors (my great grandparents) and I am happy to share any information I've learned researching my Dewart ancestry. FYI.... Are you the daughter of Andy Dewart?